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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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lancaIV

"AC: 1 signal     Commutator: 2 signals "
I think, "YES",there is the need to read the "1908" publication :
https://figueragenerator.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/patent-clemente-figuera-44267.pdf

a. the "Figuera" is only( = no es más) the functional transformation of the Faraday-induction laws
Este  principio,  no  es  nuevo  puesto  que no  es  más que  una  consecuencia  de las Leyes de la inducción sentadas por Faraday en el año 1831: lo que sí es nuevo  y  que  se  quiere  privilegiar  es  la aplicación  de  este  principio  a  una  máquina que produzca grandes corrientes eléctricas industriales, que hasta la presente  no  se  pueden  obtener  sino  transformando  en  electricidad  el  trabajo  mecánico.

b.Now to the description :
DESCRIPCIÓN     DEL     GENERADOR     DE     EXCITACIÓN     VARIABLE "FIGUERA"

the work principle
Aquí,   lo   que   cambia   constantemente   es   la   intensidad   de   la   corriente excitadora  que  imanta  los  electroimanes excitadores  y  esto  se  consigue valiéndose de una resistencia a través de la que, una corriente apropiada, que se toma de un origen exterior cualquiera imanta uno o varios electroimanes, y, conforme  la  resistencia  va  siendo  mayor  o  menor,  la  imantación  de  los electroimanes  va  aminorando  o  aumentando  y  variando,  por  lo  tanto,  la intensidad  del  campo  magnético,  o  sea del  flujo  que  atraviesa  al  circuito inducido.

the operation:
El funcionamiento de la máquina es el siguiente: se ha dicho que la escobilla "O"  gira  alrededor  del  cilindro  "G"  y siempre  en  contacto  con  dos  de  sus delgas.  Cuando  está  en  contacto  con  la delga  "1"  la  corriente  que  viene  del generador  y  pasa  por  la  escobilla  y  delga  "1",  va  a  imantar  al  máximun  los electroimanes  N  pero  no  los  S  porque  lo impide  toda  la  resistencia;  de  modo que  los  primeros  electroimanes  están  llenos  de  corriente  y  los  segundos vacíos. Cuando la escobilla está en contacto con la delga "2" la corriente no va entera   a   los   electroimanes   N   porque tiene   que   atravesar   parte   de   la resistencia; en cambio a los electrodos S va ya algo de corriente porque esta tiene  que  vencer  menos  resistencia  que en  el  caso  anterior.  Este  mismo razonamiento  es  aplicable  al  caso  en  que  la  escobilla  "O"  cierre  el  circuito como en cada una de las distintas delgas hasta que terminadas las que están en    una    semicircunferencia    empiezan    a    funcionar    las    de    la    otra   semicircunferencia  que  están  directamente  unidas  a  las  otras.  En  suma  la resistencia hace el oficio de un distribuidor de corriente; pues to que la que nova  a  excitar  unos  electroimanes  excita  a  los  otros  y  así  sucesivamente;pudiendo  decirse  que  los  electrodos  N  y  S  obran  simultáneamente  y  en opuesto  sentido  pues  mientras  los  primeros  van  llenándose  de  corriente  se van    vaciando    los    segundos    y    repitiéndose    este    efecto    seguida    y ordenadamente   se   mantiene   una   alteración   constante   en   los   campos magnéticos  dentro  los  cuales  se  halla  colocado  el  circuito  inducido,  sin  más complicaciones  que  el  giro  de  una  escobilla  o  grupo  de  escobillas  que  se mueven  circularmente  alrededor  del  cilindro  "G"  por  la  acción  de  un  pequeño motor eléctrico.

This
Como  se  ve  en  el  dibujo  la  corriente  una  vez  ha  hecho  su  oficio  en  los diferentes   electroimanes   vuelve al   generador   de   donde   se   ha   tomado;   naturalmente que en cada revolución de la escobilla habrá un cambio de signo en la corriente inducida; pero un conmutador la hará continua si así se desea.De esta corriente se deriva una pequeña parte y con ella se excita la máquina convirtiéndola  en  auto  excitadora  y se  acciona  el  pequeño  motor  que  hace girar la escobilla y el conmutador; se retira la corriente extraña o de cebo y la máquina  continua  su  misión  sin  necesidad  de  que  le  presten  ayuda  ninguna para suministrarla indefinidamente.
seems similar to
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3

The following spanish text is only -more/less- a repeat.

hanon,pardon,could you give me a detailed link related to "AC : 1 signal Commutator: 2 signals"
edit:  # 734  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12439-re-inventing-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-25.html   
::)     Figuera Clemente wrote about direct or alternating current output

marathonman

QUOTE;
"Fact

1.The patent was filed in 1908 ;the technology was primitive compared to what we have today
2.We have No idea whatsoever as to the exact coil configuration used as that was not expressly stated in the patent.
3. Part G was depicted a s a set of resistors
4.The jury is still out on whether the poles are attracting or in repulsion mode..this wasn't expressly stated either."

While granted it was a while ago somethings can't be replaced as in part "G". it will never self sustain with out it. NEVER !
fairly simple to deduce after trial and error, there is only so many ways to wind a coil especially of the time frame.
it even says it was drawn in an elementary way to get the understanding across, do you seriously think he would waste power unnecessarily like that. do you not have the ability to see past a simple drawing that says it is just a drawing, well em, i guess not.
the jury is not out, six plus people says the polarity is NN including one that has a working device. not to mention my demo device with 100 watts in and 300 watts out all at NN set up.
most of the speculation on N/S on this device was backed by no or little research and the ones that did do research got little to nothing out because of the opposing induced.

completely irrational statements backed by irrational thinking with no research what so ever leads one to no where very fast and does nothing but distract the real purpose of this tread and it's followers.

and i'll be darn if i am going to stand around while some unintelligent lemming  from the pic below runs his mouth at every thing i post about the Figuera device that can be verified by any real semi intelligent researcher. i have over three years and mega thousands of hours of research in each piece of the Figuera device and have read every patent no less than 50 times each reading between the lines.

you, my friend,  are sadly mistaken if you think i don't know what time it is with the Figuera device.

you people aren't  even in the same ball park as me.

ps. GEGENE! is not even close to the Figuera device. no resemblance what so ever.
and not a single cuss word from my sailor mouth, yah ! ex military.

jegz

That was a joke. sorry if you were offended Hanon.
Yes figuera uses 2 signals to create Variation in magnetic field. The same can be achieved with 1 signal..the difference will be that Set Y will have a magnetic field approaching from both sides simultaneously...but flux cutting will be achieved in a motionless manner nonetheless

NRamaswami

Jegz

Figuera was a suppressed scientist who lived in an island. The patent texts as we  shown are edited.. from our experiments we see that they are significantly altered. By whom I do not know.

The Figuera devices is so simple and that is why it troubles many. Even after 108 years.

The 1902 patents used the gap between identical poles. But the patent text says opposite poles. How do I know..experimental observation.

The 1908 patent is not even a patent application but is a disclosure document program. These documents are secret forever. How can they be obtained is a mystery to me. The 1908 patent drawings show the secodary to be placed within opposite poles. But by modifying the geometry it is possible to use identical poles also though it is cumbersome and risky and the drawing does not show it.

Now I have already built these coils but the problem is that the voltages do not merge in AC always.

We have learnt how to reduce AC input at primary. The current is there in secondary. Wevonly need to use large cores. I only Need to merge the voltages of secondaries. If any one can suggest on it I can show a video easily.

Can I use diodes  and DC capacitors in series to merge the voltages of two secondaries. Please advise. Then I can show the video of a device within days.

Regards

Ramaswami

marathonman

Quote from: jegz on August 15, 2016, 02:10:24 PM
That was a joke. sorry if you were offended Hanon.
Yes figuera uses 2 signals to create Variation in magnetic field. The same can be achieved with 1 signal..the difference will be that Set Y will have a magnetic field approaching from both sides simultaneously...but flux cutting will be achieved in a motionless manner nonetheless

Will not work. at least in the Figuera set up it won't, but good luck.