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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Cadman

Hello IMIGHTKNOW,

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 14, 2023, 04:49:04 PM
The 1902 patent had stationary inner and outer primary electromagnets and what rotated was a drum type setup with the secondary windings on that. He improved it throughout the series of 1902 patents then sold them to the Bankers to pay his financial backer Buforn off and have money for his crown jewel, his 1908 stationary generator.
Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 15, 2023, 12:15:44 AM
Very true, the Figuera device has nothing to do with the egg of Columbus other than it's shape. My opinion is he transitioned from the difficult design of the 1902 patent to the much easier layout of the 1908 patent with two rows of inducers and one row of outputs between them. One rotated (1902) the other did not (1908) except the controller which took a small motor.
The motor was there to rotate the brush or group of brushes and the commutator in the 1908 patent. The 1902 patent had no core for the secondary just some kind of drum. I honesty have not studied the 1902 as much as the 1908.

Since you have years of studying and researching Clemente Figuera, could you explain why you keep claiming a rotating member is in the 1902 patent?

From PATENT CLEMENTE FIGUERA (1902) No. 30378 (SPAIN)
The invention for which a patent is applied consists in following note.
Note
Invention of an electric generator without using mechanical force, since nothing
moves
, which produces the same effects of current dynamo-electric machines
thanks to several fixed electromagnets, excited by a discontinuous or
alternating current which creates an induction in the motionless induced circuit,
placed within the magnetic fields of the excitatory electromagnets.
Barcelona, the 5th of September of 1902
Signed: Clemente Figuera and Pedro Blasberg

onepower

Imightknow
QuoteVery true, the Figuera device has nothing to do with the egg of Columbus other than it's shape.

The egg of Columbus analogy was not in reference to a shape or device but a concept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus
QuoteAn egg of Columbus or Columbus's egg refers to a brilliant idea or discovery that seems simple or easy after the fact.
Christopher Columbus, having been told that finding a new trade route was inevitable and no great accomplishment, challenges his critics to make an egg stand on its tip. After his challengers give up, Columbus does it himself by tapping the egg on the table to flatten its tip.

Another analogy is that everyone can find a problem impossible(trying to balance an egg on it's tip) but still have a very simple and obvious solution(simply flatten the tip). Implying that others did not understand the nature of the problem or read too much into it.

As such Figuera, like many other FE inventors, was claiming the technology was very simple and obvious but only after the fact. The solution only becomes obvious after a person becomes an expert on the subject or gains experience and insight into the nature of the problem.

Ironically, the egg of Columbus concept may apply here. Many assumed the egg of Columbus reference by Figuera may apply to complex shapes, coils or cores. Others assumed the reference may apply to Tesla's egg of Columbus device in 1893 demonstrating the complex interaction of induction and rotating magnetic fields. Everyone always tends to assume the most complex solutions but seldom the most obvious ones...

https://fs.blog/complexity-bias/
Complexity Bias: Why We Prefer Complicated to Simple

Quote"Most geniuses—especially those who lead others—prosper not by deconstructing intricate complexities but by exploiting unrecognized simplicities."... Andy Benoit

AC

bboj

Exactly

Quote from: Cadman on March 15, 2023, 11:05:21 AMHello IMIGHTKNOW,

Since you have years of studying and researching Clemente Figuera, could you explain why you keep claiming a rotating member is in the 1902 patent?

From PATENT CLEMENTE FIGUERA (1902) No. 30378 (SPAIN)
The invention for which a patent is applied consists in following note.
Note
Invention of an electric generator without using mechanical force, since nothing
moves
, which produces the same effects of current dynamo-electric machines
thanks to several fixed electromagnets, excited by a discontinuous or
alternating current which creates an induction in the motionless induced circuit,
placed within the magnetic fields of the excitatory electromagnets.
Barcelona, the 5th of September of 1902
Signed: Clemente Figuera and Pedro Blasberg

forest

Quote from: bboj on March 15, 2023, 12:45:23 PM
Exactly


and the Egg of Columbus is the way Figuera generator behave the same as generators but with the patent claims

bboj