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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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phoneboy

Quote from: floodrod on May 25, 2023, 09:10:32 AM
Maybe the original patents had several angles but only the top angle made it through the time portal.

Attached is what Buforn's series array might have looked like from the side.
Floodrod, If you close the flux path of the inducers with the current varying from high to low (opposite) on each side then you'll end up with a relatively constant flux and get no induction as there will be little to no change.
This is an image of a pdf output from a rhino drawing I posted back in April, https://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg576245/#msg576245, this is just my take on it but I can't see how it would work any other way.

citfta

I believe this drawing posted by Floodrod is probably the closest to the actual device of any configurations I have seen.  I have marked the flux paths though the output coils to make it easier to understand.  When A phase is fully on and B phase fully off then the flux would follow the red path.  When the opposite B phase is fully on and A phase fully off then the flux would follow the blue path.  The big advantage to this configuration is that there is a completed flux path for both phases and both phases get equal power applied to the output coil.


Respectfully,
Carroll

bistander

Quote from: citfta on May 25, 2023, 03:04:13 PM
I believe this drawing posted by Floodrod is probably the closest to the actual device of any configurations I have seen.  I have marked the flux paths though the output coils to make it easier to understand.  When A phase is fully on and B phase fully off then the flux would follow the red path.  When the opposite B phase is fully on and A phase fully off then the flux would follow the blue path.  The big advantage to this configuration is that there is a completed flux path for both phases and both phases get equal power applied to the output coil.


Respectfully,
Carroll

Hi citfta,
Sounds good when y coils have no load, but doesn't hold true if load currents cause opposing mmf in y coils.
Hopefully bench tests can shed some light.
bi

floodrod

Quote from: citfta on May 25, 2023, 03:04:13 PM
I believe this drawing posted by Floodrod is probably the closest to the actual device of any configurations I have seen.  I have marked the flux paths though the output coils to make it easier to understand.  When A phase is fully on and B phase fully off then the flux would follow the red path.  When the opposite B phase is fully on and A phase fully off then the flux would follow the blue path.  The big advantage to this configuration is that there is a completed flux path for both phases and both phases get equal power applied to the output coil.


Respectfully,
Carroll

Thanks...

We need to also ask why Clement and Buforn only label one side of each coil (N)  when coils have 2 poles.   Perhaps because it was a top view and only 1 pole was showing in the schematic.  This may also answer the weird core questions, why the cores go on top of the electromagnets and not all the way through.

If you need help visualizing it in 3d, I made a 3d mock-up and flip it around in this video comparing it to the patent drawing  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPOGBEpwIN0

floodrod

Quote from: bistander on May 25, 2023, 03:40:31 PM
Hi citfta,
Sounds good when y coils have no load, but doesn't hold true if load currents cause opposing mmf in y coils.
Hopefully bench tests can shed some light.
bi

It might be interesting..  Regarding Cifta's drawing-  Say the first coil is growing North.  The induction coil will go North as the first one grows North.  That reciprocal magnetism would probably prefer going through the reducing coil rather than the more difficult path of the growing one.  And North going into South reciprocates current in the same direction as the input.

It's a head-scratcher for sure.  But I am building it to find out