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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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a.king21

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Daniel_Ruhmkorff
I really have to  come in here, so you don't go astray. 
The Ruhmkorff coil is a coil of high inductance designed to produce currents of high voltage and frequency.
The high frequency is produced by the interrupter  which is  a make-break mechanical device with a similar principle to the
old electric bell.
Each make-break of the interrupter produces oscillations in the mhz range.
The Rumkorff coil comes complete with it's resonant capacitor.
During Figuera's time the interrupter and cap were sometimes omitted from schematics because it's action was well
understood.


hanon

Quote from: NoMoreSlave on February 06, 2014, 02:40:06 PM
Some documents of my work

Regards,
NMS

Hi NMS,

Welcome to the forum!! Your enthusiasm is really appreciated for us with months without results.

I share with yuo the idea that Figuera tried to emulate a dynamo. but dynamos are charactherized by the flux lines cutting the wires and maybe that was what Figuera looked for with the unphased primaries. I dont know.

Figuera sold his 1902 patents to a banker union just 4 days after filling them. I have even thought that maybe Figuera knew that the patents were going to be sold, and he wrote them  without being very precise. Or he kept occult any key part.

In your post, that I quoted above, there is no attached file. Maybe you forgot to attached it

Regar

bajac

Hanon,


I have thought a lot about why Figuera's patents look so incomplete. Were these patents tampered with after filing? Patent #30378 reads "...for this generator whose form and arrangements are shown in the attached drawings, ....and the induced circuit is marked by a thick line of reddish ink..." Was there more than one page of drawings? Where is the thick red line representing the secondary coils?


It is very suspicious!!!


NoMoreSlave

Hallo a.King21,
Thank you for the input, but if you read carefully the patent 30378 you will find the mention of Ruhmkorff:
"...In the arrangement of the excitatory magnets and the induced, our generator has some analogy with dynamos, but completely differs from them in that, not requiring the use of motive power, is not a transforming apparatus. As much as we take, as a starting point, the fundamental principle that supports the construction of the Ruhmkorff induction coil, our generator is not a cluster of these coils which differs completely. It has the advantage that..." in the case of Figuera, he was using a commutator instead of one breaker and TWO primaries. BUT how is the current induced in the secondary coil of Ruhmkorff induction coil?

@bajac:
This is my answer to your question about "the properly built core" (after the mention of Ruhmkorff-like construction in the patent 30378 ):
"...It has the advantage that the soft iron core can be constructed with complete indifference of the induced circuit, allowing the core to be a real group of electromagnets, like the exciters, and covered with a proper wire in order that these electromagnets may develop the biggest attractive force possible, without worrying at all about the conditions that the induced wire must have for the voltage and amperage that is desired. In the winding of this induced wire, within the magnetic fields, are followed the requirements and practices known today in the construction of dynamos, and we refrain from going into further detail, believing it unnecessary.

IMO he was talking about the advantages of this kind of construction in comparison with the prior art:
In the other generators(he used word Dynamos), due to the rotating armature, you have to adapt or condition the induced coil to the free space you can get inside that armature or core, because of this limitation you cannot get that much from the winding and you have to decide if you want more current (ampers) or more voltage. BUT with his solution, you break that dependency and now you have a freedom to select the appropriate copper sizes at your convenience in order to get the power you need. About the mention of the properly built of the core, he meant –IMO- a stacked or laminated one, that was the optimization made at that time, today we can use commercially available cores, or maybe without any core, but just Tesla bifilar for electromagnet in sandwich form (in my ToDo list).
In the case of tesla bifilar coil (very low self-inductance) as primaries and secondary:
-   Witch induction formula should we use?
-   Is Lenz law also present?

I will tray all this configurations, but first I need get the correct sequence of excitation, because that part seems to be clearly descried in the patents and discussed.
First step is to reproduce the same commutator, scope the two excitation currents coming out from the resistor ladder, then implementing a modern alternative.
The transformer is just a matter of winding an scoping until catching the effect.
A DoE (Design of Experiment) is a good method for every researcher, experimenter.

@hanon: thank you!

Regards,
NMS

Marsing


hi all
   
i've been watching this thread to find  result from bajac and friend, i made no replication so i can share nothing, NMS you give fresh air ,but where are your documents ?