Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[NRamaswami]

Marathonman:

I apologize if I miscommunicated. I only intended to say how businesses operate. Technology is different business and politics are different. I was only pointing out that info on this type of devices are not available only due to the reasons. I do not lecture and I apologize if I miscommunicated.

Farmhand.. You are not answering the basic question. Electricity is energy and energy can be converted from one form to another form and we know all this but why is the rotating field and conducting material combination needed to generate electricity. What does the conductor do? Why a non conducting material would not produce electricity.. This is a fundamental question and if the books do not answer that, it is a different issue. What we have is an observation that when conductors are placed in a rotating magnetic field or time varying magnetic field, electricity is induced in the conductor..Voltage of the electricity so produced is based on the number of times the conductor is looped as a coil. But why conducting material alone does this and why a non conducting material would not do the same thing..

So this is the fundamental question I want an answer..If books do not answer let us then understand that we have not studied it..I have so many material scientists and I think it has been studied well and this is why we have different types of cores and different types of rare earth magnets. But definitely some thing happens inside the atomic structure of the conductors and that contributes to the electricity generation. The key to devices that generate more energy than input mechanical force may be present there..Perhaps one of the keys..May be we have several solutions and since we have a large industrial base which is based only on one solution either we have not gone and thought about it or implemented it.. solutions appear to be present but we have no information. Daniel McFarland cook patent, Figuera, Hubbard, Hendershot, Moray  you name it and we do not have any clear information. Moray's device is particularly demonstrated so many times and then destroyed and we have no information on it. These people might have asked the basic fundamental question I'm asking and might have found the answer and then build the devices..But still we are not able to answer the fundamental question..This is what I wanted to suggest. My boys are on leave this week end and so I could not do any experiment. I'm sorry.

[bajac]

I was referring to Figuera's 1908 and later patents.


I agree that the 1902 patent is incomplete. It does not show the configuration of the induced coils which makes it suspicious. Incomplete patent applications are not accepted by any office. A required condition is that the concept shall be provided with sufficient details to allow its implementation by a person with skill in the art. I believe the original 1902 patent application was complete and that it was tampered with by the bankers who purchased it.


I have also read more pages from the Buforn patents and I have the idea that Figuera made a mistake by trusting this guy. I picture Buforn's profile as a greedy business man who did not have Figuera's intellect. I have to thank him though for adding information that I think that I think was originated from Figuera, such as the statement that the dynamos do not convert mechanical work into electrical power.


Then, Buforn made a terrible job by writing extensively about the Sun, atmospheric influence in electric phenomena, etc., to validate the operation of the Figuera's device. It seems to me that Buforn was trying to say that if Tesla's ideas of radiant electricity is true, then it also is the Figuera's generator, which he was trying to rename it as "BUFORN'S ELECTRIC SYSTEM PRODUCTION." That is, Buforn tried to steal Figuera's work.


Buforn's later patents included information that I am sure Mr. Figuera would had never approved. I strongly believe that the last patent (application #57955) showing the Figuera's generator sharing the primaries electromagnets was not his idea. First of all, that device is nothing new because it uses the same Figuera's concept, and second, it should have lower performance and more critical adjustment of the parameter making it less stable because of a higher probability of cross talking between the primary electromagnets.

[dieter]

But in 1902, they had to present a working device to get the patent granted. They also had to deliver complete plans, but the patent was given before anyone could try to reproduce it, I assume. Figuera patented it, this gave him the evidence about that it really worked, then he offered it to the bankers, or maybe they had their spies in the patent office and contacted him?


It could also be that Figuera had bought the guys from the patent office so they would confess the device was working. I don't say I don't believe in the possibility of a working device, just listing the options. In fact, I am pretty sure it was working.

[bajac]

Because the invention was sold in less than a week after the patent was awarded, there is no doubt in my mind that the business transaction was taken place much earlier.
Like today, the bankers of the time had heavy investments in the oil markets and were important members of the oil cartel. They have always had control and/or great influence in the government, military, and of course the patent office. Today, the USPTO has a special unit to detect and prevent any "special" application related to free energy from reaching the public. Therefore, it should be not a surprise that the patent 1902 is incomplete.
If you have any idea how banks make their businesses, you should have not doubt that the 1902 device worked. Could you think that the bankers would have paid so much money (at the time) for a device that did not work?

[dieter]

If he fooled them, he wouldn't have had such a carrieer. They would have found out in 1903, maybe 1904.


Ok, I have a technical issue:  Imagine a horeshoe magnet (U shape) that has a steelbar attached to its end, so it builds a closed magnetic loop. Imagine around the steel bar there's a coil. Now when I connect the coils ends, aka short-circuit it, it will create an inductive load. Assuming this is a permanent horseshoe magnet, does adding the load reduce the permeability of the steel bar?


Thanks.