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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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forest

WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE WILL WORK except pure DC (but DC may be created at output  :P  )
Even so glorified N-N or S-S poles against themselves will work. The point is every method has it's own drawbacks. What you got is what you put into ;-) if you put crap you got crap, if you put poles against , you got the phenomenal rate of change but weak field so I expect some huge voltage but tiny current and so on....just think clearly...
You can put whatever signal you wish and the effect will be different... So PLEASE stop this maddness and do not fight .


I have an idea to remove necessity of resistors by using electronics. Many of you surely know or have a DC lab power supply with regulated current. Similar method could be used to create DC-DC converter for example 150W which could limit output DC to required amps dynamically. One of the method is to use combined diodes and thyristors in bridge setup to adapt input current to the required level. I have no experience with such circuits so I'd be glad if someone could explain if it can keep output voltage steady or how to modify it  ?




marathonman

I wish i could kill the stupidity because it's running rampant on this thread.

You people are completely WRONG ! one north electromagnet taken up while a south electromagnet taken down will not work because the spin directions are opposing. does your feeble tittle minds even comprehend what the hell i just said. probably not because small minded people think small together.
I REPEAT, SPIN DIRECTIONS ARE OPPOSING with a N/S set up. look it up on any fucking Physics web site of your choice, just do it.
you will find that all you N/S'ers are completely wrong from the git go. of course you people probably WON'T look it up because you to stupid to do the research and would rather run your big fat fucking mouth instead just for the sake of arguing and to save your sorry asses from complete Embarrassment. your research in the figuera device is piss fucking poor and lacks ANY SCIENTIFIC DATA TO BACK UP YOUR ABSURD CLAIMS.
all the data i have posted CAN be backed up scientifically and COMPLETELY proven with out one single notion of doubt unless your a complete idiot like daredummy of rstupid that post the most outlandish, Ridiculous shit i ever heard that has nothing to do with the Figuera device what so ever.
when GOD said get in line for brains, you two must of thought he said trains and both of you got on the slowest one you could find. ha, ha, ha, that's funny stuff there.

i repeat, repeat, N/S spin direction when used in the Figuera set up will not work, look it up yourselves "if" you can read. the ONLY way Figuera could get a stationary dynamo to work is with two opposing electromagnets, one taken up, while the other taken down causing not only the B fields to cancel but the Electric field to be doubled in strength.
with N/S set up the attractive forces are to strong to vary any kind of field what so ever.

my 1 year old grand child knows not to put the square block in the round hole because it wouldn't fit, i would suggest you two simple minded people do the same. being stuck on stupid does nothing but back step this thread and hamper what we are trying to achieve. if you can't handle the truth or the reality of the Figuera device then i would suggest you two clowns get your own thread and call it "Figuera's device, pee wee hermin style" or even " IDIOT 101" advanced class at 7 pm.


'WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE WILL WORK except pure DC"
   COMPLETELY WRONG STATEMENT,  i would expect a little better from you Forest since you've been on this site for so long. stop feeding the simple minded trolls, pets are not allowed.
your statement is so far from the truth it's not funny, this tells me you and the trolls have not built even a demo device to back up you claims.
there is, and never will be resistors in the figuera device what so ever. resistors wastes electricity that is why figuera chose to it magnetically, no unnecessary waste.

part G can never be replaced or removed because the kick back from the declining electromagnet being shoved out of the secondary is stored in part G's core in the form of a magnetic field similar to an inductor,  to be used at the next half turn of the brush, feeding the next set of electromagnet.
this part can never be replaced with an inverter either as there is no place to store power in the form of a magnetic field. i'm not being disrespectful to you but you need to study the patents a little more before you post such completely wrong statements.

this is for all the misinformed people that think N/S will work. study the bottom graph, do you not see the induced are opposing in the Figuera device,  DUH !. if you can read then it will tell you it won't work PERIOD ! this graph was pulled from a physics web site so if you disagree with it then i guess the whole world is wrong and only you are right. get real !
now, look at the top graph, do you not see the fact that the induced of N/N set up in the Figuera device are in the same direction, meaning they support each other while B field cancel causing double intensity E field. if you can not understand this simple scientific fact that is staring you smack dead in the face then you are to stupid to attempt a Figuera build.
i can though, draw it out for you in crayola crayons,  with nice pretty colorful pictures with pop up's that can help you understand my meaning,  but "if", and only "if" you talk nice to me.
i again say N/S WILL NOT WORK ! study the bottom graph and pull your heads out of you ass before it's to late to build a device. our whole way of life will change shortly at the hand of evil people that want us in bondage. people like the BUSH'S, OBAMA'S, CLINTON'S, ROTHSCHILD'S, ROCKEFELLER'S and so on,  will destroy this world.

Cadman

THIS FORUM IS DAMN NEAR USELESS.

A couple of us decide that marathonman's and Doug's and Hannon's ideas are worth pursuing to us and what happens?

Can we have an exchange of ideas? HELL NO!!!! THE YAMMERING SPHINCTERS SHOW UP with page after page of NO YOU GOTTA DO IT MY WAY bullshit.

JEEZZUS


Marathonman, unfortunate timing on this post. It wasn't aimed at you, or the new guys.

hanon

Quote from: hanon on August 11, 2016, 06:42:40 PM

Suppose two primaries and two secondaries coils in the middle of the primaries. If the primaries are in attraction mode the only field transversing both secondaries is:
N ---------------> S. As per Lenz, the induced field of each secondary will be <-------- in one secondary and  <-------- in the other secondary. Both opposing to the primary field. How the hell are you going to buck both secondaries? Impossible. No way

If the primaries are in repulsion their fields will be N -------> <--------- N  . In this case one secondary will oppose to its closer primary field: <--------  and the other secondary will oppose to the primary field of the other primary coil:  -------->. There you have two bucking secondary coils. Perfect bucking output coils. In this case you may use pulsed DC. You just need to collide two fields in the center point, right in the point between both secondaries coild, no need for movement of the fields in this design based in flux linking.

Summary :

Attraction  N ------------------------>  S
                       <--------    <---------

Repulsion  N ----------> <-----------  N
                       <---------    --------->


I attach a new sketch to clarify what I meant. This is not Figuera 1908 patent. I just added here because it refers to the bucking coils subject mentioned in some post.


If two inducers are placed in repulsion and two induced coils in between, then each induced coil is just transversed by one inducer field, the one from the nearest inducer. That's the key. Both inducer fields collide in the center in a point between both induced coils and are expelled from the core. Therefore each induced coil is under the action of one inducer field. The two induced fields, which oppose to each inducer field, will be bucking each other  <------------   ------------->  . With vectors :   B1induced + B2induced = 0 . I have not tested it, but theoretically it is a perfect bucking system.


Repulsion  N ----------> <-----------  N    (inducer coils)
                       <---------    --------->         (induced coils)

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hanon

Quote from: marathonman on August 10, 2016, 12:30:48 PM
...and that a straight core can be implemented as long as there is movement. so try your staight core again but with movement. might need to change wire though. ie. magnet wire with top sanded.

I have done that test with a straight core and moving the contact point along the coil turns and I have not noticed any variation on the intenesity in any of the two bulbs. I guess that the inductance of the straight core is much lower and the effect over the final impedance is almost null. Also the frequency in my test is very low. In a toroidal core maybe the inductance is greater, as consequence of a stronger magnetic field, and the final effect is big enough to be noted in the bulbs as my other video shows. Also I may guess that you have not done the simple test that you posted for us some days ago to prove the part G theory of magnetic resistance. I hope your part G to be designed with good physical background and not the background that you used when posted that simple test.

https://vimeo.com/178585834

Note: my bulbs are built for 12V and 5 watts. Therefore the intensity across each one is I = 5/12 Amperes, and their ohmic resistance is R = V/I = 12*12/5 = 28 ohms. A big increase in impedance is required to modify this value and be noted in the light intensity.

From the moment I did the video with the variac powered with DC I realized the the proposal of magnetic resistance in part G could be valid. Anyway I still think that simple resistors, even wasteful, will make the same job: moving the fields.  And it is easier to design and build for non instructed people in this subject of magnetism as myself

Regards