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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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alan

Quote from: floodrod on May 04, 2023, 02:12:22 AM
"when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one"  <---  he was describing how a regular dynamo works..

With 1 way current, growing and shrinking 180 degrees out of phase, the only way it will induct is Like Polarities.. 

Shrinking North acts as South..
Shrinking South acts as North..

Growing North acts as North..
Growing South acts as South..

demonstrating this on a live bench. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Syk9t7foYQ
You're right, I wasn't aware of this: 
https://www.youtube.com/embed/8FXPmYGIOs4

floodrod

Thanks Solar Lab,  If I may suggest, please reference the Buforn patents to see the coil / core arrangements.  It seems they used a full core in the pickup coil with the ends extending and intruding into the driver coil's hollows.  But the iron through the driver coils appears to go under 1/2 way and does not make contact with the other pole.

I have been experimenting and am seeing pretty big differences in % of power that gets passed to the source with different arrangements.  Both frequency and core arrangements swing the results.

Alan- thanks for posting that.  Now if you can, think how a transformer flux works when the secondary passes it's magnetic field back through the primary which raises input.  With positive biased waves, we get real AC from the induced, but now we never flip polarity on the primary input.  Try to picture how the downward cycle will affect the primary under these circumstances. 

And if you see what I am saying, now if we use 2 coils out of phase, we can start to see why the resistor rig is of upmost importance.  It has a direct connection between both coils.  Electronic versions will be useless unless we can establish a way for the emptying electromagnet to allow current flow to the filling,  but never the filling to the emptying.

alan

Transformer logic is confusing. When a secondary is loaded, emf and current add to the primary circuit which are caused by the flux created by the secondary current, and the power source has to deliver the extra current that is demanded. 
I'll look into it.

citfta

      Transformer logic doesn't need to be complicated or confusing.  All you need to understand is what impedance is.  Power transformers are designed to operate at a certain frequency.  At the designed frequency an unloaded transformer has a very high impedance because as the current and voltage increase the flux density also increases rapidly and thus limits the amount of current going through the primary of the transformer.  When a load is applied to the secondary the secondary windings draw current from the increasing flux and this allows the primary current to go higher than in an unloaded condition.  The current being draw by the secondary reduces the flux and this lowers the impedance of the primary and thus the primary current goes up.


If you operate a power transformer at a frequency it is not designed for it will have a higher input current even when the secondary is not loaded.  It will also run hotter because of the higher input current.  60 Hz transformers do not do well at 400 Hz.


Respectfully,
Carroll

alan

Yeah, but (from my understanding, how I see it) the current isn't (directly) drawn from the flux, but the flux creates an output emf which causes a current to flow and when the current flows through the  secondary coil, it in turn generates an mmf and its flux that has the polarity to oppose the flux that caused the voltage in the secondary, causing magnetic induction in the primary that adds to the self-induction (right-hand rule applied to i1 and flux2)  if the secondary coil is used as a negative power source. And the secondary becomes the primary and the primary the secondary, similar to what is said about generators that simultaneously functions as a motor with a back-torque. 

Split the positive, or break the symmetry with (bread crumbs) multiple coils that buck, and the back-reaction adds to the output  and counter-reaction has a flux in the same direction as the  input coil instead. 
Something like this (again): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmJr4_gHygo


Respectfully.