Crystal Cell Research

[Allwest]

Not to be a downer for you, but keep in mind that anybody can change the formula slightly and they can receive there own patent

So long story short, the little guy trying to make money on there invention is pretty much screwed

You could try and sell your idea to a big company that could flood the market quickly with the product so it would not make any sense for anyone else to try and compete 

If you had a couple million dollars laying around I would say you could do it yourself

Good luck with this 

[plengo]

Thank you all for your precious input.


I do have in mind a little product that I can make myself to sell. I guess you guys would be my first customers.


What about I create a new thread where WE TOGETHER can from beginning to end create one that I have, but I want more like WE ALL really experiment step by step with the minimum necessary equipment (which is not much) and in scientific manner study the process and make greater progress?


My research has been from total failures to total successes. Each step for me was a very important learning experience where I could take what was good and understand the next important step.


What I would like is the ALL to learn from grass roots just like it happened to me but as a collective process we will create a much better cell since many minds on the experiments (which we also would improve) will understand and find many new findings.


What you guys think?  I will NOT give the final formula TODAY since this does not help at all since what will happen is only a bunch of people creating a bunch of cells but not be able to progress further.


I think this way we together can patent this too so that big corporations can not sell and THEY make the profit.


Fausto.

[mscoffman]

plengo,


There is co-citizen of Brazil that perhaps you should get in contact who was featured on peswiki.con
ie Stirling Allen's website. She is into inexpensive artistic lighting for cities. I've notice that some of the
pictures you have shown seem to have a high artistic component. For example the one with
piles of dark mineral cubes with small colored lights interspersed. She maybe would have contact
with people who would want to try artistic things. If the lighting is permanent then the technical component
seems would go away and lighting would become more existential. Sort of like an extended brush stroke.


Think of an artistic piece still shining 100's of years after it is created!


:S:MarkSCoffman

[hartiberlin]

Hi Fausto.
I think patenting is useless..
Just build 10 or 20 pieces first, sell it on Ebay with a profit, so you
can next make a batch of 50 and then always dounble the numbers in each production batch
and so on...

Surely some people will reverse engineer it, but who cares...
The market is huge and you can still sell it, if you don´t make it too
expensive and you can advertise it still as the original manufacturer and
being the inventor and not the copy cat will make people rather buy from you,
if you are not too expensive...

I guess it only counts to be first on the market and hold the bigger market share..

Then who will stil care about stupid patents... if your product is better than that
of the competition the people will still buy from you...

Regards, Stefan.

[Pirate88179]

Hi Fausto.
I think patenting is useless..
Just build 10 or 20 pieces first, sell it on Ebay with a profit, so you
can next make a batch of 50 and then always dounble the numbers in each production batch
and so on...

Surely some people will reverse engineer it, but who cares...
The market is huge and you can still sell it, if you don´t make it too
expensive and you can advertise it still as the original manufacturer and
being the inventor and not the copy cat will make people rather buy from you,
if you are not too expensive...

I guess it only counts to be first on the market and hold the bigger market share..

Then who will stil care about stupid patents... if your product is better than that
of the competition the people will still buy from you...

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan:

I agree 100%!  Patent cost a lot of money to do correctly and....if 1 company jumps your patent, you have to defend it or surrender it.  If 5 companies jump your patent, you have to defend against all 5 or surrender your patent.  10 years ago, the average patent defense against one infringement cost over 1 million dollars.  So, 5 defenses, 5 million dollars.  Don't have that kind of money?  Then your patent is gone.

An attorney once told me to be the originator and get to market fast.  And, as you said, when others jump in (and they will) keep telling them you are the originator and also, make improvements as time goes on so they are always one step behind you.  If someone else get a patent for the product, they can not stop you from making it as you are the inventor.

Bill