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Overunity Machines Forum



Crystal Cell Research

Started by plengo, October 29, 2012, 06:08:15 PM

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plengo

Quote from: jbignes5 on August 28, 2014, 05:12:31 PM

I can understand your position but patenting this would be kinda useless and very very costly. Just release the stuff and mnake sure it is the best product you can make. Then sell it like was suggested on ebay. Once the word gets out you'll be golden. If you keep it in the public domain it will be assured continued work since not one person could be targeted and taken out by any means. Yes in the patent searches there is a procedure to search the web for prior art. That includes patents and research on a generic search of the internet. Any mention of your process will invalidate any patent attempt including your own forum posts and videos that were released into the public domain by you. The sad fact is the cat is out of the bag. Too much work has been done already and anyone could change it by 20% and get an improvement patent after your patent anyways.
Stay in the open source and release all information and just know it was you that improved on a process already done by others. The whole concept was born in the open source community and thats where it should stay.


You have every right to charge for parts and labor and release products based on that for a moderate sum. Remember to not price yourself out of the business. You want to be competitive with existing products in the same category and not shut the door before you even get through the door. Bedini did that with his version of the battery in an led light setup. Make it too costly and no one will buy it. Good luck my friend...


jbgines5


I agree by now with the patent usefulness or better uselessness.  I am working on the product as we speak. I really wished that the community would work more like a real community. No funds I was able to raise and I think it will never happen.




The cost of making the product is very high since I have to buy all the materials, build it myself and so on. 5 years research drained a lot of my savings already.


I am on my last breath with this tentative of selling this first product.


Fausto.

jbignes5




Hang in there Plengo. You have skills in video presentation and scientific study. Keep up the good work and like others who have said it before, you will make it slowly at first but then it will snowball out of control and you'll be rolling in the dough. I know how hard it is to get investment money but then the problems begin once you have to take an offer with questionable tradeoffs. Start slowly and make it right the first time. You have done the hard work and now it is time to get in there and build the first few and release this monster.
I and others have been working on our own versions of the crystal cell and it is a step by step process in the beginning. Each successful cell built and sold will grow your pool of available cash on hand to procure and make more. All great businesses in these kind of fields started out of a garage and flowered into a full fledged BUSINESS. A bit of sacrifice in the beginning has always been the way these startups go. Once this is met the flow starts and never stops. Each success adds to your reputation and just from word of mouth you will get your fill. Don't advertise in the beginning. Just let it spread normally from the buyers and you will expand without getting too much bad attention.


jbignes5


mscoffman

Quote from: jbignes5 on August 28, 2014, 05:34:28 PM


Hang in there Plengo. You have skills in video presentation and scientific study. Keep up the good work and like others who have said it before, you will make it slowly at first but then it will snowball out of control and you'll be rolling in the dough. I know how hard it is to get investment money but then the problems begin once you have to take an offer with questionable tradeoffs. Start slowly and make it right the first time. You have done the hard work and now it is time to get in there and build the first few and release this monster.
I and others have been working on our own versions of the crystal cell and it is a step by step process in the beginning. Each successful cell built and sold will grow your pool of available cash on hand to procure and make more. All great businesses in these kind of fields started out of a garage and flowered into a full fledged BUSINESS. A bit of sacrifice in the beginning has always been the way these startups go. Once this is met the flow starts and never stops. Each success adds to your reputation and just from word of mouth you will get your fill. Don't advertise in the beginning. Just let it spread normally from the buyers and you will expand without getting too much bad attention.


jbignes5


I can't agree more with what jbignes5 said above.

Believe it or not Fausto, you can take some time off, in fact I'd encourage it, I'm sure your initial excitement will return. Anyone who says
this is not excruciating is not being reasonable, but in fact there are currently no drop-dead timeframes.

:S:MarkSCoffman


plengo

Thanks guys. I agree with all so far. It is though but hey, nothing easy lasts.


I am making my first ones to test a few more months and release it obviously to you guys first which I kind of trust more to see if it is indeed what I am claiming.


I am looking for certain items still but I will get there. The funny thing is that to make one is not the costly at all but building is a pain by hand. I can imagine this in large scale with machines making it.


If this takes off and I sell it big time I will be billionaire.  ;D


I am already creating videos in detail how to make, step by step, but first I need to sell some and see it for sure then all will be available to all (just like Lasersaber).


Fausto.

gotoluc

Hi Fausto,

sounds like you have found something that can help bring change to those in need.

Wishing you success in sharing

Thanks

Luc