Crystal Cell Research

[Kator01]

Hello Dave,

is this the product Natriummetasilikate you used ?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Red-Devil-TSP-90-Heavy-Duty-Cleaner-1-lb-Cleans-Floors-Walls-Woodwork-/321471781360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad93619f0

If so we will have to find similar product in germany as Amazone listed it here as not available at the present time

Thanks

Kator01

[drodenbe]

Hi Kator01:

Look on ebay under sodium metasilicate.  The very first listing shows a 1 lb bag for 14.00.

David

[drodenbe]

Kator01

I forgot to answer your question.  Yes the product is a cleaner found in the paint section of ace hardware under the name TSP-90.  I am going to buy off of ebay after my current supply runs out.  I think I can get a better price in bulk.  Goes fast.  Used almost 6 lbs.  Using the portland cement helps to stretch out the supply and it also helps to harden the cell a lot faster.  2 hours as apposed to a couple of days.  Using the cement you can seal off the cell with wax or epoxy and keep a little moisture in the cell to get the current.   Good luck!  Hope you liked the circuit.  I am now looking at 1.172 volts and it is still climbing.  I am also charging of sorts three other crystal cells and they are reading 3.609 and they are still climbing.  I am using two radio shack data logging meters to Graph the results.  That way I can do other things and watch which way the voltage is going.  Well the charge batteries just went to 3.610 volts.  I let it run all night. been running for week.  Noticed that the voltage falls a couple thousands of a volt at night then when morning comes the voltage goes back up.  One last thing.  If you are careful in measuring the sodium hydroxide solution as I have stated and make enough to do all your cells if you are making more than one,  you will have great consistency between the cell voltages with that batch.  I did 10 cells to make a 12 volt battery and I got around 1.220 to 1.268 on all the cells.  Other wise the voltage might be all over the place.  At least this is what I found out. 

David

[4Tesla]

Hi David,

Thank you for sharing your research!  A lot of new stuff to try!  I've been also doing research in this area.  I have an idea of coating the electrodes with a conductive coating.. there are electrically conductive adhesives, but costs lots.. going to try to make my own.

http://www.atomadhesives.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=79_94
(the prices look low.. but they are for a very small amount)

4Tesla

[Kator01]

Hi David,

do you have information about the volumetric or weight percentage of the material-mix including the amount of water you used ?

This would be of great help.

This swiss flyer gives information about a new trend in laundry detergent production indicating that there are different particle sizes available for different purposes. See here

http://www.impag.ch/fileadmin/resources/files/ch/Chemie/Flyer_Natriummetasilikate_2011-02-01_final.pdf

so it would be a good idea to find out the particle size of the Sodium-Metasilikate you bought

Shipping-cost are too high to buy this in USA, have to find it here in germany.

Thanks for sharing

Kator01