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Single circuits generate nuclear reactions

Started by Tesla_2006, July 31, 2006, 08:15:00 PM

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forest

Look here : http://hypertextbook.com/physics/modern/x-ray/

"There are two (THREE?) principal mechanisms by which x-rays are produced. The first mechanism involves the rapid deceleration of a high speed electron as it enters the electrical field of a nucleus. During this process the electron is deflected and emits a photon of x-radiation. This type of x-ray is often referred to as bremsstrahlung or "braking radiation". For a given source of electrons, a continuous spectrum of bremsstrahlung will be produced up to the maximum energy of the electrons."

Is this related ? Seems there is a problem for electron to be "stuck" in nucleus like in Protelf ???

mikewatson

Further experiments and updates on the VallÃÆ'Ã,©e-Naudin effect.

As previously mentioned I was unable to repeat the Naudin version of the VallÃÆ'Ã,©e effect using a thyristor switch and also I failed using a FET circuit similar to Naudin’s  operating at 37 volts and up as far as 40 volts with a capacitance of 0.2 F.
Another problem comes up from the paper quoted by Naudin â€Ã...“The VallÃÆ'Ã,©e  Synthetic Generator working principleâ€Ã, on page 8 it says that the reaction of carbon capturing a K electron, converting to Boron 12  and its subsequent decay is  20 milliseconds.
Naudin does not mention this delay between excitation and the production of an impulse from the carbon. I have looked on my set up for this delayed response up to 200 msec from the initial capacitor discharge and found nothing. Presumably Naudin’s published pulse waveforms are 20 msec after the capacitive discharge?

Because of the possibility of artefacts arising from the current transformer toroid, I abandoned its use completely and now monitor the current by the voltage developed across a 0.14 ohm resistor in series with the carbon/thoriated-tungsten spark gap. The kink effect I reported in post 817 on 2nd August is now present without any transformer or inductance  or saturable reactor in the circuit. The thyristor switches 0.008 F capacitors through the spark gap at 125 volts. The threshold voltage for the kink effect to appear is about 60 volts probably due to the resistance at the carbon-tungsten interface.  The delay between the pulse edge at the discharge of the 0.008 F capacitors and the start of the kink is about 1 msec. The delay time also depends on the presence of a weak magnetic field concentric with the carbon/tungsten spark interface. It is increased by one magnetic  polarity and reduced by another. Reversing the sign of the voltage on the tungsten/carbon i.e making the carbon negative and tungsten positive reverses the delay effect, so the magnetic field direction which gave minimum delay with carbon positive now produces a maximum delay. The width of the kink pulse is roughly 400 microseconds.

The effect I am getting is nothing to do with circuit inductance but depends on the  carbon/tungsten spark gap. The circuit is very simple, consisting of a capacitor monitor resistor and carbon-thoriated tungsten sparkgap in series.

Mike

forest

Oh,boy.Seems that I'm going nuts with all these OU theoretical devices.... Some days ago I have a dream   ;D about carbon experiments as proposed in this topic (also Sweet VTA device and many others  ;) )  and this dream clearly explains me what we are missing here.

Look, where is electron flow in this circuit ? Where do you have excess FREE fast electrons required to initiate Carbon->Boron conversion HITTING carbon rod ???
Aren't we discharging caps from POSITIVE terminal ? Spark gap is the right choice but we need MORE FREE FAST electrons probably.

mikewatson

Quote from: forest on September 08, 2008, 03:50:31 PM
Look, where is electron flow in this circuit ? Where do you have excess FREE fast electrons required to initiate Carbon->Boron conversion HITTING carbon rod ???
Aren't we discharging caps from POSITIVE terminal ? Spark gap is the right choice but we need MORE FREE FAST electrons probably.

Yes, I agree we need beta particles. I have concluded that the kinks in the current waveform I get are due to chemical action in the arc between the carbon and most likely atmospheric oxygen and nothing to do with nuclear activity.
Of course this begs the question as to how Naudin managed to get his results, bearing in mind that thorium is an alpha emitter with only a trace of other isotopes present which does not fulfill his requirements at all as I understand it.

Currently my feeling is the fact, which Naudin states, that the thoriated tungsten rod used for all these VallÃÆ'Ã,©e experiments had previously been used in the plasma fusion experiments may be significant. Possibly the rod is radioactive in some additional way rather than just an alpha emitter.

Mike

forest

Seems that we need a beam electrons  generator, something like ...a vacuum tube in Edwin Gray circuit  ::) If you replace an anode in vacuum diode or triode with a piece of carbon you will have excellent conversion device. Looks like that OU effect may be a base for nice new (?) type of vacuum tube ( which I dreamed also  ;D )

Kind of triode ,except: anode is connected to the piece of pure carbon which is surrounded with a copper coil (which is a replacement of the grid). Heater produce a nice beam of electrons probably must be powered by 1A current or more. Anode is connected to negative of the output circuit (which is the acceptor of beta decay current ) , "grid" (copper coil) to the negative of it. There is a flow of small but enough current in that circuit (coil may be even uninsulated, not sure here). Anode connection is frequently broken (freq >> 50hz) by a commutator which connect a discharging HV capacitor to the anode  instead of negative terminal.This produce arc between carbon and heater and electrons impact on carbon.

The effect is large current in output circuit ,perfect sinewave 50hz on top of small DC which was needed to polarize coil and anode.Of course such "vacuum triode" should be compact and highly evacuated.

And yes, I really dreamed about it...