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Overunity Machines Forum



The Paradox Engine

Started by Tusk, November 16, 2012, 08:20:52 AM

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Tusk

QuoteMay be we don't need a generator driven by the disk since the EM drive can become
a generator during the deceleration

The idea of the generator at the disk axis was to allow rotor arm motion to coast (or close to it) during disk energy recovery; this in the interest of simplicity, sacrificing the rotor arm reversal but reducing the complexity of the cycle. Also it gives you somewhere to go if OU isn't achieved with the first build due to inefficiency.

Quoteinstead of the  EM drive can be used an
ordinary motor which drives the disc with something like a gear drive?

Again, probably ok but someone would need to look at that from an engineering viewpoint and establish if it will do the same job or cause some other effect/s. It looks ok at first glance but any departure from the basic concept runs the risk of adding complexity and therefore possibly not achieving OU due to some unnoticed change in the dynamics.

 

telecom

The idea of the generator at the disk axis was to allow rotor arm motion to coast (or close to it) during disk energy recovery; this in the interest of simplicity, sacrificing the rotor arm reversal but reducing the complexity of the cycle. Also it gives you somewhere to go if OU isn't achieved with the first build due to inefficiency.

Ok, now I understand your plan completely - it may do the job, generators aren't that expensive!
Again, probably ok but someone would need to look at that from an engineering viewpoint and establish if it will do the same job or cause some other effect/s. It looks ok at first glance but any departure from the basic concept runs the risk of adding complexity and therefore possibly not achieving OU due to some unnoticed change in the dynamics.

So we have to walk before starting running?

Tusk

Exactly telecom, to have a simple prototype working which is relatively easy to build (and largely affordable) regardless of efficiency; provided it achieves OU it doesn't need to be useful other than as a technology demonstrator. The current apparatus was intended as 'proof of concept' but apparently the logic of it gets lost amid the convoluted explanations and the counter intuitive phenomenon of the secondary motion/reaction, amongst other things.

I suspect everyone would prefer a straightforward thingamyjig which achieves OU because of a simple effect (previously known and understood) clearly observed when you connect the thingamy to the jig. In reality nothing so simple is likely to achieve anything new and useful, much less OU.

telecom

May be you can come up with an actual sketch of the device, to simplify
the building process for DIY people?

Tusk