9/11 truth movement topic

[Pirate88179]

Exactly!  In my business...we always look for the motive.  I too would be interested in what some say the motive was.  The Rolling Stone piece was illuminating.  A conspiracy is better with less involved, but, let's involve all these people and do these incredible things...yes, that will work.

I don't trust our government either, at least not 100%.  We would be fools to.  I just fail to see what was gained by this "charade" that could not have been gained a whole lot easier, and sooner.  And, please don't quote Alex Jones, he is so far out there that he lacks credibility with me, and I have heard his stuff for many, many years now.  Let's discuss this in a rational manner and examine the real facts, such as they may be.  I try to keep an open mind.  I have watched the propaganda videos that only exist to attempt prove a certain point, and I don't think they do.  You can't concentrate on some evidence and ignore the rest to suit your theory. Truth be told, I think there is plenty of propaganda on both sides but, if I for one moment ever thought that this was a true inside job, I would leave America today.  I think it's funny that the others that "know" it was an inside job are still here.

Shrugged is right.  What is the motive and what did they gain?  Follow this and you may have something.  Just don't distort the facts to fit the theory.  Thanks for listening.

Bill

[stevewal2]

You best leave America then. 

But where to go? It's just as corrupt here in the UK. How about South America or Africa, then you could get a real flavor of American forein policy. Don't get me wrong, I love the American people I've met, but as a corporate power base, some of the policies and actions of U.S based organisations (world bank, EMF, CIA etc), are criminal beyond belief.

Before going into Iraq, most credible analysts I heard over here, were saying it would never lead to an improved situation for the people of Iraq (even with Saddam Hussian gone) and would probably lead to civil war, because of the history of conflict within the country. Now the Americans and British new this without a doubt. So the hundreds of thousands of people that died would have been for nothing (except for gaining control of the oil supplies). This is only one example, and to me makes a few thousand people dying on 911 seem reletively small. How can these powers that are willing to have the blood hundreds of thousands or millions of lives on their hands, be given the benefit of the doubt, when the motive is the same, as is the result. 

Cheers,
Steve.

[Elvis Oswald]

Motive?  When did Silverstein buy the property?  What did he pay for it?  Was it a good investment?  How much did he get from the insurance?

If you don't know these facts... I'm not here to subsidize your ignorance - educate yourself and then start reading below.

There have been many gains attributable to this tragedy.  But it is not up to me to prove anything.  What we have is a crime that is still unsolved.  There has been no examination of the evidence by an impartial jury.
The NIST merely proposed how the airplane could have caused a failure... they started with the conclusion and worked backwards.  Not only that - but they stopped at "failure" - they never studied the complete collapse.  They basically stated that the aircraft crash could have weakened the steel - so it must have.  And that's well and fine... but the collapse could not have been attributed to the crash - and so they stopped at failure.  AND they ignored WTC7.
And the 9/11 commission only outlined the failures that allowed the hijackers to do what they did... but NEVER looked into if they in fact did what they supposedly did.

There was no examination of the evidence.

We were presented with a theory... and more and more that theory falls apart.

Is it any wonder Bush told congress not to investigate... then he refused to investigate... then he tried to get kissinger to head the investigation... then he wouldn't fund the investigation... then he made them stop investigating.

Let's have a real investigation.

[HopeForHumanity]

Motive?  When did Silverstein buy the property?  What did he pay for it?  Was it a good investment?  How much did he get from the insurance?

If you don't know these facts... I'm not here to subsidize your ignorance - educate yourself and then start reading below.

There have been many gains attributable to this tragedy.  But it is not up to me to prove anything.  What we have is a crime that is still unsolved.  There has been no examination of the evidence by an impartial jury.
The NIST merely proposed how the airplane could have caused a failure... they started with the conclusion and worked backwards.  Not only that - but they stopped at "failure" - they never studied the complete collapse.  They basically stated that the aircraft crash could have weakened the steel - so it must have.  And that's well and fine... but the collapse could not have been attributed to the crash - and so they stopped at failure.  AND they ignored WTC7.
And the 9/11 commission only outlined the failures that allowed the hijackers to do what they did... but NEVER looked into if they in fact did what they supposedly did.

There was no examination of the evidence.

We were presented with a theory... and more and more that theory falls apart.

Is it any wonder Bush told congress not to investigate... then he refused to investigate... then he tried to get kissinger to head the investigation... then he wouldn't fund the investigation... then he made them stop investigating.

Let's have a real investigation.

That pretty much sums up why you shouldn't get in the way of the new investigation. What reason would any one have for stopping the truth movement? They don't like it? lol

Anyway; I totaly agree...

[gaby de wilde]

You best leave America then. 

But where to go?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQfnTjcXlk