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The Solution vs Hoax equation

Started by audiomaker, November 27, 2012, 02:20:51 PM

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TinselKoala

@Tusk: I'm not dodging you... much. I  just don't feel qualified at this time to give your interesting device the attention and analysis that it deserves.... especially after our discussion in the pendulum paradox thread. I'll be following your progress and if I can think of anything at all relevant to say I'll try to say it,  maybe.
Meanwhile, I am working with some basic dynamical problems of my own, "revolving" around forced gyroscopic precession, as illustrated in this old video of Professor Laithewaite's remarkable demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRPC7a_AcQo

Tusk

No problem TK, I fully appreciate your position on such things and have no issue with it assuming fair and reasonable handling, which you appear to uphold. Not 'seeing' the paradox (with the pendulum bias experiment) is quite common - frustrating for me, but a typical response so you are not alone in that. I don't think the same thing happens with the Paradox Engine though, it seems to throw everyone off balance if they give it anything more than a cursory glance.

I'm familiar with the phenomena in the link you provided, and gyroscopic phenomena in general. If my opinion is worth anything, and not that I rule out advantage with gyroscopic effects, but my own phenomena is a walk in the park next to that nightmare. I was really hoping to get your particular style of robust investigation going on this thing and get it sorted out, since your opinion has a high value on this forum. I have no qualms or doubts about the viability of the concept and without wanting to seem aggressive, challenge anyone to give the material their full attention and not come away either converted or confounded.

I am nearing the end of two driven years. We each have our reasons for engaging in such projects. Since my initial 'lightbulb' event we have seen Fukushima Daiichi blow several rather large gaskets; not one of us can be certain that some small particle originating from that mess is not silently radiating our insides. I therefore take my work very seriously, for this and several other pressing reasons. So please forgive my occasional blunt delivery, my intent is simply to make a positive contribution, if at all possible.

audiomaker

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 01, 2012, 04:15:51 AM
@audiomaker: hey, I'm firmly in the skeptic's corner but I'm no cop. <snip>

I know.  And I'm no protester.

I was suggesting a similar relationship though where protesters...as reasonable as they find themselves to be, often end up breaking windows, flipping cars and lighting fires in the street without someone to remind them to be reasonable.  No offense was meant.

As to inventors huddling over their devices (working or not) fearing the black van that's been parked across the street for a week...

...Heck ya, sure that's the case.  Considering that govt's spend billions and puts 100's of thousands of people in harms way (who are killed by the thousands) just to influence the price and availability of oil, I don't find it at all fantastic that an inventor would be concerned with the safety of tampering with a trillion dollar industry.
There are some who speculate that Dr. Tesla's research was terminated by people who had less-than-admirable intentions.

So yes, I do believe that might be a concern of anyone with a viable device, or even with a viable concept.  "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not actually out to get you".

:)

evolvingape

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 01, 2012, 03:47:59 AM
1) I have no problem with stationary turbine power plants, in fact they would be good sources for my wireless auto power transmission scheme using the guardrails and antennae embedded at stoplights and other stopping points for transmission to the autos.
2) the Mazda engine only makes that RPM when it is topped out, it isn't a constant RPM device like a turbine power plant would be. In a vehicle you'd operate the turbine at a constant RPM to turn your genset to make power for the wheelmotors. But leaving the turbine in the garage is a much better idea.

1) Yes agreed. I also have plans for your wireless power transmission technology to replace the slip ring assembly on the HELP.

2) Yes stationary turbine micro power plant is an extremely desirable option. I have also had a chance to think about an automobile mounted turbine as an onboard powerplant, and your concern is valid. So a potential solution...

I have suggested using carbon disc brake technology as suitable for a RotoMax turbine. A carbon brake "brakes" by using hydraulic pressure to compress a pressure plate against the rotor and stator assembly using 3000 PSI of pressure as an example. High surface area for contact and high pressure compression slows the rotor and converts that energy to heat, which is why the brake discs glow red hot. If you reverse the operating procedure and on startup use 3000 PSI of pressure to compress the spring assembly (big ass springs) you can move the side housing stator away from the rotor giving operating clearance. Now close the fluid inlet and you can lock that 3000 PSI of fluid pressure and turn the hydraulic pump off. Then all you need is a collision sensor like for airbag activation to open the fluid exhaust valve(s) and the spring pressure asserts itself causing the pressure plate to brake the rotor. I know this is viable,  I do it almost every day at work when static proof testing, sometimes at pressures of 6000 PSI +.

audiomaker

@TK

Ok, I was looking for your input on this one. 

You know, it takes time to browse all the threads and like you, I have things in life I have to do.

http://www.overunity.com/11937/accelerating-motor-generator-selfcharging-capacitors-without-any-batteries/#.ULrK2qXDlbw

Now, I am not make a challenge here.  Skimming the thread, it appears that they were communicating with the inventor at some point and that kind of faded away.

I don't feel like there was ever any resolution to the thread.  After 7 or so pages of mostly positive remarks, it just sort of faded with some other member mentioning something about "fake".

It's like a bad movie that ends without ever knowing what happened to the heroes.

In this particular thread, there's a lot of talking about the validity of the device.  Some people usually cloud the thread with discussions of other devices and what really should be other topics, and in the end, one is left wondering... "Ok, what happened there??"

It might be my conspiracist's nature, but I can almost "feel" the private messaging going on, and then... it sort of goes quiet.  I don't like that, and this isn't the first time I've witnessed it.

It's like something that should have the full attention of the board until a public verdict is reached (including physical confirmation if warranted), just gets boring and fades out as the main players stop posting in the thread.

Thoughts?