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UFO politics Keeps his word 12-12 12 Let the games begin.......

Started by ramset, December 13, 2012, 08:15:14 AM

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Nickstir

Hello all,
    This is my first post here or on any other OverUnity/Alternative Energy forum for that matter. I stumbled upon UFOPolitics posts in the Energetic Forum site quite by accident. I have been following that thread for 10 months. Sitting in the bleachers so to speak. Unfortunately I am a total novice. This is not my field at all and I have a lot of trouble following. Still the last few months I learned quite a bit about this overunity subculture. John Bedini, Don Smith, Tariel Kapanadze, Ed Gray etc. The list is long. Fascinating stuff.

About 3 months ago a Latvian named Gints Dzelme made a series of videos using UFO's motors and did some tests. Those videos can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/VaterisVideo/videos

I'm not sure if you guys have seen them yet. I find the last one the most interesting. You may have to push the pause button often as it moves along quite briskly. Well at least the videos has some data.... I'm asking here because I believe there may be a more 'balanced' view here.
Anyway just wondering what you guys think. As I said I'm a newbie and this is over my head.

Nickstir

TinselKoala

QuoteHello UFO thanks for everything.
Hope all is going great. Another trip to the UPS Store revealed the following on their scale.

Commutator each ------------ 1.70 lb, ----      0.771107 kg 

Big Bearing -------------------- 0.25 lb, ----      0.113398 kg

Small Bearing ----------------- 0.15 lb, ----      0.068039 kg

Previous Information

Weight of bare armature -- 11.50 lb,----      5.216312 kg

Total UFO Armature Weight after finished...  19.73 lb --- 8.9493775 kg

So.... if your armature weighs, say..... 8.9494022 kg.... or you scraped off too much epoxy and it only weighs 8.9492852 kg.... I am afraid your overunity mogen probably isn't going to work.

And for the builders:
NTE 2397 mosfet, 400 V 10 A, Rdss 0.55 ohms, cost between 5 and 10 dollars each. (5.81 each from Mouser).
IRF740 mosfet, 400 V 10 A, Rdss 0.55 ohms, cost between 1 and 2 dollars each. (1.63 each from Mouser).

Of course, if you use the less expensive parts...... well, what can I say.

TinselKoala

I just had a scary thought. Looking at the 555-controlled mosfet pulser, and considering the Ohm's Law mashup and some other things I've read..... I just wonder........

Let's say you have a timer-driven mosfet pulser like is shown in the last few posts "over there". A 555 timer sends a pulse to the gates of a bunch of parallel mosfets, which switch a 36 volt supply to a low-impedance (under 1 Ohm) load. The individual mosfets have an on-state resistance of about half an ohm so the overall on-state resistance of the mosfets is about 0.1 ohm.

OK.... so the load is connected like this: +36 V Positive rail > load > D-mosfet-S > negative rail. Right? Or like this: +36 V Positive rail > D-mosfet-S > load > negative rail. Either way, makes little difference for the moment.

And the 555 timer sends a positive pulse to the gates of the mosfets to turn them ON and allow current to flow through their D-S channels and the load. Right? The timer is variable in frequency and/or duty cycle-- the proportion of time the output pulse is "High" or in this case nearly +12 V.

So now we hook a voltmeter in. Positive lead to the Drain of the mosfet(s) and negative lead to the negative rail. When the 555 timer sends a "high" or positive 12 volt signal to the gate of the mosfets.... what does our voltmeter on the mosfet Drain read?
And when the 555 timer signal is Low or off, the "off" time of the duty cycle, what does our Drain voltmeter read? If we scoped the drain and the gate of the mosfet, what kind of relationship should we see in the two signals?

ramset

Nickstir
Welcome and than you for posting the Vids and "some" data.
most here are quite sincere and dedicated to finding OU [yah even that TK guy].
thx
Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

anomdeguerre

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 21, 2012, 07:32:17 PM
I find it extremely ironic that I have never seen an electrical OU claimant report measurements made with an actual lab-grade power meter like these.
Just a few questions for you here:
Do you think the fact that a Clark-Hess costs a couple thousand dollars has anything to do with it?

Do you have such a power meter?

Is it borrowed? Or did you purchase it new with your own money?