Magnetic energy pump OU motor

[gyulasun]

Hi Tao,

Many thanks for your interesting findings. Now we have more info on this setup.

I tend to think that using permanent magnets in the rotor instead of iron would increase the attractive force: this can be one conclusion from your second part: "NOW, when there IS an iron/steel core and without any power applied to the coil, the rotor is NOT ATTRACTED to the steel/iron bars at all. AND, as more DC current is applied to the coil the attraction of the rotor to the steel/iron bars is INCREASED until a maximum attraction."

Regards
Gyula

[wizkycho]

Hi !

This gives me the best on/off ratio and highest on Teslas through rotor steel and is much simpler then previous.
So I'll go with this one hoping that CD motor can generate enough.
There is allways steel core in wound coil in my setup and flux is ment to be pumped out to rotor.

Igor

[wizkycho]

Thanks Tao !

it is much easier to proceed if knowing that simulations results are simmilar.
Were we all wen't wrong is the point when seeing possible mechanical OU unit we
emidiatelly jumped to motionless setups where things forces and counter reactions
comes much more complex.
There is plenty of energy in these mechanicall setups... even for space trevel

Currently I'm searching for someone with CNC machine who is not on vacation...

Best regards
Igor

[wizkycho]

Last minute change !

The whole setup must be made of many thin plates (preferably silicon iron, or some soft magnetics)
with isolation between plates (sort of transformer like assembly) to stop eddy currents
develop and there would be many induced if parts are made as solid. Many of setups fail
cause of edy current induced.

I have oredered parts

Igor

[Kator01]

Hello Igor,

I am watching as this thread develops and I wonder about one thing :

What makes you believe that with no force ( no current in coil) and adding magentic flux via current in the coil - that you get the power of two magnets ?

Basic experiment of J.Naudin just demonstrated that with a starting fieldvalue  of one magnet ( not zero !!! ) you will get an undefined increase of field by the upcoming bucking-coil-field.

This bears no possibily of OU.

In the measurements you start with zero because the magnet-field is thinned out within the iron-plates. Applying coil-field will only give additionally that part.

Kator