Magnetic energy pump OU motor

[wizkycho]

I propose this simple and working design to be made quickly

based on truly magnificent experiment

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mep1.htm

Pic explanation:
only one wound coil (orange) is shown.(there are 3) and are pulsed in same time
(light orange) is just some wood or plastic mechanical spacer distancer that stops steel plates to bend to rotor.(only one shown)
(light blue) none magnetic material.
(dark gray blue) is magnetic steel material.
magnets are red-blue.

How it works:
1. if wound coil is not energized magnets close their fields through core of coil.
2. when coil is energized magnets badly want's to close their fields through rotor
and strongly attracts rotor steel.
3. when steel at rotor is completely attracted coil is switched of and inertia leads rotor
to next position suitable for energizing coil.(2.)

some simple electronics should be built to switch coil on and off.
For probe only ONE attractor can be made (no need for three)

If NdFeB magnets are used even twenty times (20) larger is mechanical output than small input electrical energy.

Igor Knitel

[gyulasun]

Hi Igor,

I am pleased you returned to this idea and showed this interesting setup.

You mentioned small electrical input energy need: however I do think that considering only the one coil case the electromagnet must receive an input energy to create a flux at least comparable or equal to any one permanent magnet's flux, right?  But even so, your setup still seems to be overunity. Has anyone tested it?

I remember a setup on this Forum a year ago, based on similar principle but shown with a different layout:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,309.0.html   and I think this also "seems" overunity but needs further design to utilize the output power.

Regards
Gyula

[wizkycho]

Hi Igor,

I am pleased you returned to this idea and showed this interesting setup.

So am I, motionless setups are at least unstable and hard to replicate for beginner.
and working hy voltage  wich makes electronics and measurements more complex
Easy replication is a must.

You mentioned small electrical input energy need: however I do think that considering only the one coil case the electromagnet must receive an input energy to create a flux at least comparable or equal to any one permanent magnet's flux, right?  But even so, your setup still seems to be overunity. Has anyone tested it?

What is certain is that input can be indeed small, much smaller than expected, probaly 1/5 th and smaller
of the strenght of one magnet but under one condition wich is not hard too meet. The rotor steel when switching coil on
must be very close or just started to overlap with stator plates. In this case magnet flux emidiatellly has way to close through rotor so input doesn't have to be that much forced.

I remember a setup on this Forum a year ago, based on similar principle but shown with a different layout:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,309.0.html   and I think this also "seems" overunity but needs further design to utilize the output power.

Regards
Gyula

Yes, interesting topic and evolved into this. Advantage is simplicity (no mechanicall input nedded). And this thingy
can be stacked to meet any power wanted.
i'll post a picture of it stacked.

Igor Knitel

[wizkycho]

Hy Gula and all!

This is pic shows it stacked. rotor is in about position to energize coils on the right side.
I think this is simpler to build than Hildenbrand design (allthough it is very very good one)
In Hildebrand design there is need for small negative coil energization to stop magnets from attracting rotor, which is not the case
in this design. When coil is off magnets close on themselves completely.

I'm putting any other research aside till I build this one.

Best Regards
Igor Knitel

[mark australia]

This looks very good...will be very interesting to see your results
mark