1850 Watts free energy power ? New GEGENE circuit by JL Naudin shows COP = 2.8

[vrand]

So can anybody explain the EXTRA 240 Watts display of the second
Wattmeter from Naudin ?

Is it just a wrong display, cause the PowerFactor is wrong calculated or
the pulsed input of the cooker does jam the power meter ??

Regards, Stefan.

From JLN circuit diagram the 240 watts display of the second wattmeter is from the second output coil (looks like 2 to 4 turns) that he shows moving on top of his main pancake coil  in the video.


So he has 2 Output coils:
- the main flat pancake coil, output around 1880 watts.
- the large diameter 2 to 4 turns coil, outputs around 240 watts.
 
Cheers

[Madebymonkeys]

Laurent has seen some new modulation effects here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEGP4iBLb5I


So can anybody explain the EXTRA 240 Watts display of the second
Wattmeter from Naudin ?

Is it just a wrong display, cause the PowerFactor is wrong calculated or
the pulsed input of the cooker does jam the power meter ??

Regards, Stefan.

The wattmeters are inaccurate when measuring Watts and unspecified measuring PF (PF is required to be known) - he cannot make ridiculous claims based on these meters without taking into account the potential for measurement error.
What you are seeing will be down to measurement errors.
It's likely to have a low PF which also makes it illegal if lower than 0.90 - correct me if I am wrong!

[m786]

Somebody can remember a mustafa device, which is exactly to same as induction heater with feedback coil....

http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/mustafa007/

[JouleSeeker]

The wattmeters are inaccurate when measuring Watts and unspecified measuring PF (PF is required to be known) - he cannot make ridiculous claims based on these meters without taking into account the potential for measurement error.
What you are seeing will be down to measurement errors.
It's likely to have a low PF which also makes it illegal if lower than 0.90 - correct me if I am wrong!

I doubt that the induction cooker realizes such a low PF; may be wrong.

Question (also to TKoala and others):  Would an "official" utility company power meter give an erroneous reading of the input power to this Gegene device -- if the Gegene were the ONLY thing running on that meter?

[Madebymonkeys]

I doubt that the induction cooker realizes such a low PF; may be wrong.

They are notoriously bad.
Here is a quote from a review of one particular model:

"Getting technical for a minute, the one other thing that surprised me concerned the hob's power-factor. The manual correctly states that when on Standby, it only consumes about 1 watt. However due to its low power-factor, it's actually pulling over 150VA - basically, 150 watts that 'technically' you don't have to pay for, but the electricity supplier must still provide, in other words, wasted energy! And most should already realise that this kind as 'wastage' is already factored into your bill. And it's definitely not very 'environmentally-friendly'! The manual does mention though that the hob should be disconnected from the mains when not in use."

It's from here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B004BM749S

As I mentioned, this is gross measurement error - no magic just poor understanding.