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Is this the Smith/Kapanadze secret ?

Started by Jack Noskills, January 23, 2013, 06:01:09 AM

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saintsnick

Something to think about here. You may have trouble getting magnetic force/wattage into your air core transformer, or any transformer, using the Caduceus coil primary circuit.  Of course, you're trying to use it to prevent backward translation of load, but it is preventing you from putting power INTO the transformer because of the mutually canceling inductance of the two primary coils.   BUT, What if the energy was ALREADY in the transformer, say, by use of a traditional input circuit, transistorised or spark-gap discharge, doesn't matter, but the Caduceus coil instead to be used only on the output or secondary circuit, where the connected load will not be able to backward translate into the transformer, because the Caduceus coil will prevent the backward translation???  The only catch is that you must connect the output Caduceus coil in such a way as to allow electricity to flow out, which is what the Caduceus coil normally prevents. The wiring is simple to do. Two output coils on different positions on a toroid, wound opposite, connected together in the middle, and the opposite outside ends connected together with each other also.  There will be no flow of current out of either coil, the currents will cancel, but the two connection points will provide AC out ACROSS them.  Then, backward translation is canceled anywhere else in the toroid OTHER than immediatly under the two output coils.  Just don't put the Primary on the same point on the toroid, or maybe it doesn't even matter.  This is what Ed Leedskalnin showed.  ;o)

-Saintsnick

Belfior

Looking at the series of videos put out by Rick Friedrich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vnxdc1EGFY&t=9843s

am I somewhere in the ball park with my deduction below?

There is really no secret. What Don Smith is using is just resonance and not even resonance in all cases. People get stuck in the math formulas and start babling, that "voltage is not power. Power is voltage times amperage". They forget that amperage only appears when you start wasting charge somewhere. You radiate energy into space with a stove or use some other form of transformation. So amps is actually something we might not want in our system at all. Gerard Morin seems to be able to speed up his motor with just voltage and amps stay low. Probs just copper losses.

Voltage is pressure and first we want to get a lot of pressure, so later on we can use some and some we can even waste in a spark gap or similar. Nature has provided us with plenty of ways to get voltage: Resonance, flyback transformers, Marx generators, charge pumps, Tesla coils. So we can almost say that voltage we can get to any pressure without using much input. Once again you get "priests" attacking you saying that "this and that is only voltage and that is not power. That is only 'static' charge and it has no power. There is only One God called Under Unity so go pay your electric bill". Let me tell you a secret. Charge equals charge equals charge. If you get that charge into a capacitor you got power. Does not matter if it came from Lord Kelvin's water drop static generator or from a comb.

So why high voltage? I think the reason is that if you primary has 1V and you get it into resonance with the secondary you get 20V. That is not much to bounce from. If you put 9000V into the primary and get 200kV out of the secondary you got something to work with and something to even waste. High frequency gets you out of the wires into the surface of the cables and losses are smaller. Also I think higher frequency is more power, because it is more movement (you can quote your favourite UU bible here telling me how wrong I am...)

In resonance there is no resistance between L1 and L2. You can use loosely coupled L3 to pick up energy.

Ok so now we got "pressure". Let's say we got 200kV at the end of the L2 at 31500Hz. We measure L3 so that we get 8000V out to a cap of 0.005uF . Capacitors have very little to do with amps. You only need a bit of current to fight the internal resistance of the cap, but the thing works just with farads and voltage. Charge is Q = C*V and amps is Q/s. So we are putting a charge of 8000V * 0.005*10^-6 = 0.04C of charge into that cap 31500 times per second. Now if we were feeding the cap with 60Hz and at the end of the line we got an inverter feeding a device at 60Hz, 230V we could power a device that takes 40mA. We are how ever filling a large capacitor bank 31500 times per second with 0.04C of charge. Charge is charge is charge, so usable charge is 31500 * 0.04C = 1260C in one second. Divide that by 60 and you should be able to feed a device that draws 21A at 60Hz. No losses yet in these calculations, so 21A is not going to be the real value. Maybe not even 10A out, but enough for 2-4A, 230V at 60Hz? That is enough to self loop and run a graphics card to mine Ethereum. For free.

So there is nothing magical here. Build up voltage and store it into a cap bank as charge. Voltage is arbitrary to manufacture. Voltage is potential, pressure, strength of the field. Amps are the charge that is lost. The difficult part is the tuning, storing HV and getting everything to usable level at the end including frequency. So maybe a (resonant) transformer after the cap that L3 is feeding? Primary shunted with a spark gap to get a pulse going and secondary drops the voltage to 14V? Then full bridge rectifier to get it to 12V DC -> inverter -> 230AC at 60Hz

So what Kapanadze is trying to hide with all the boxes and shit is a tesla coil with L1, L2 and then L3 on the other end of L2. L1 and L2 are in resonance. L2 is looped to itself and grounded. Slayer exciter could take care of that. L3 feeds a cap bank. Rest is transformation to usable range.

People get hung up on amps and they can say like "tesla coil is only voltage. There is little amps there". This only means the L2 has only copper losses so it is efficient. Get that voltage into a cap and you got charge. Charge is what matters. If the internal resistance of the cap is something foul then you got no charge. You need to impedance match that shit.

People get hung on the notion that they do not understand where the extra energy is coming from? Well energy Conservation Law tells us, that you cannot destroy or create energy. That means all the energy was there since the start. You just trick Nature by connecting 2 potentials and the energy rushes in when Nature is going to equalize that "error". Like there is zero energy in a 12V car battery, but make a path between the 2 terminals and you got lightning coming out. You are not asking how your car starts in the morning are you? The energy is not in the battery. It would melt.

now if someone wants to comment I would like to hear actual criticism based on facts and not something like this:

"I have a PhD and I have been working for an energy company for 50 years. This is a picture of a wall where all my certificates are. You cannot get more energy out, because Jesus and the Second Law of Thermo..." Well just prove to me that voltage does not equal charge in a capacitor? Minus some amps that go into copper and other internal losses. In an ideal cap it is just farads and volts that define charge. Amperage is then that charge pulled out in one second. So voltage+capacitance is what you have and amps is what you waste.

The only problem is the transformation. How do you get 200kV at 2.4MHz into a cap bank or translated in some other way to 12V DC? Voltage is difficult because of capacitor limits and frequency is nasty because of transformer hysteresis and eddy currents. Just give me a couple of methods and I will leave you all alone.

AlienGrey

Well ok I have a Tesla coil with a single transistor driving it as a blocking oscillator if I hook a scope up although it's a Tesla coil it is wave form is just a sine wave ok I can add another coil and collect the magnetic flux into another coil but where is the free energy from the resonance.

The other thing Don L Smith makes a point about is the dual output Neon driver being a over unity in it self and it's frequency is 35.1 if you get a calculator and try and divide it by 8 or 9 witch one leaves no remainder ? I wonder why he chose that device ?

The other thing is as resonance is obtained our current drain goes up too.

There is something missing and I didn't see it in your write up and that is the dipole is constantly being destroyed, as the brighter the LED goes the more current is drawn.

AG

Belfior

Quote from: AlienGrey on June 27, 2018, 06:53:16 AM

Well ok I have a Tesla coil with a single transistor driving it as a blocking oscillator if I hook a scope up although it's a Tesla coil it is wave form is just a sine wave ok I can add another coil and collect the magnetic flux into another coil but where is the free energy from the resonance.


At the end of the secondary. You put it into a cap and it is changed into charge. Amps is charge over time. If you got a cap with 5M Ohm internal resistance, you might not very much charge, because once again you transformed that energy into amps/waste

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The other thing Don L Smith makes a point about is the dual output Neon driver being a over unity in it self and it's frequency is 35.1 if you get a calculator and try and divide it by 8 or 9 witch one leaves no remainder ? I wonder why he chose that device ?


I think Don means that you get 9000V with a device that only takes milliamps, he thinks you get 9000V worth of charge 35000 times per second or the device is labeled as 35-70W device even if you get the charge 35000 times per second. He chose the device because it provides HV cheaply

The main point is that you need to look at charge. Charge you get with voltage. Amps come into play when you start wasting the charge

What people need is a new way of looking at this. The reason OU is hiding is that people are using formulas and ideas provided by the energy companies in the form of books and theories. Everything is setup so that it is impossible to get more out than goes in. You get started with a dipole that you keep destroying (we might not get out of that easily...), then you are told to get rid of resonance, make transformers with input&output in linear position in the center pole, permanent magnets do not do anything, use low frequency because otherwise God will punish you and what ever else there might be. It is like they make you play black jack and only the dealer has picture cards and aces...

Energy is there. Even physicists agree that it is everywhere. Even in the vacuum of space. They need it to be there, or their model of the universe breaks down. Dark Energy is the new name. Used to be called Ether, but all the cool kids don't use that anymore.
Nice thing about it is that you don't need to figure out how to get it. You just create a system that is not balanced. Nature will bring that energy there to equalize the situation. Just put your tongue in the bottom of a 9V battery. Is there energy there? Now join the terminals with your tongue. Did some energy appear? Still got your tongue together?

Short recipe to OU is:

1. What is charge? How do I get charge?
2. Store the charge
3. Use the charge

You can do this efficiently or badly and in that case you don't get much out and not even close to unity. You have to be efficient in all of those 3 stages.

AlienGrey

How are you actually getting your charge?
it's a 9kv device but he uses a device like a variac to feed the 120volt input feed and attenuate that voltage
feed down in order to lower the neon PSU output down to 3kv and it's at 35100hz or 35.10khz
pulsed !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmVe92YauZA

regards AG