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converting cosmic rays to electricity comparing to T.H.Moray's device

Started by yellowsnow2, January 28, 2013, 02:01:48 PM

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yellowsnow2

Quote from: Dave45 on February 23, 2013, 01:42:26 PM
http://www.wisc-online.com/Objects/ViewObject.aspx?ID=ACE12707

http://www.wisc-online.com/ListObjects.aspx

Very good links, very helpful to understand this stuff..Thanks.
That teaches the final equation I needed.
So to make an isolation trans., the tube will just be considered a capacitor and I will need to impedance match the load side by adding a resistor the size of the source's internal resistance. Using a 1:1 ratio and using the formula I typed out last post for the rest......I'm getting there  :)


I was going to make the same one as in the video using a film canister. But now I am thinking the 8kv required just complicates things to much. Instead I will build a smaller diameter one similar to  commercial size so it will only require around 500v. This will allow me to use easily available transformer cores. And probably just rewire a microwave trans. core for the output, since output should be around the 4kv range instead of the 80kv in the film canister size.

gyulasun

yellowsnow2

These links include freely downloadable softwares to help calculate transformers.

http://www.electronicecircuits.com/electronic-software/transformer-calculation-software  (download button is in the middle when scroll down a little)

http://code.google.com/p/trafo/     



yellowsnow2

Quote from: gyulasun on February 23, 2013, 06:02:11 PM
yellowsnow2

These links include freely downloadable softwares to help calculate transformers.

http://www.electronicecircuits.com/electronic-software/transformer-calculation-software  (download button is in the middle when scroll down a little)

http://code.google.com/p/trafo/   

Wow really nice find....To bad it doesn't work with 64 bit windows... I'll have to set it up on a friends computer..

Well looks like my orders just shipped out today, so it will be a few.

The distance between the anode and cathode determines the voltage required. But I have many questions regarding the size differences of the two electrodes and how it will effect the output. Anode being just a wire and cathode being the tube and having more surface area.


yellowsnow2

For anyone that might be following this thread
I have been researching the quantum mechanics of this townsend avalanche stuff and have come across a few things.

A geiger tube basically creates an uncomplete ionization in the tube. With one side being positive/magnetic north the other side being negative/magnetic south. With the center gas being a compressed insulator. This all mirrors the idea of "band gap" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_gap Which is the energy potential needed to knock an electron loose from the atom. And the neutral point between insulator and breakdown to conductor
So the so called Geiger Plateau is a mirror image to the Band Gap of solid state physics. It is in this range that carrier multiplication occurs.

So you are operating the tube in the band gap,  assisting it to this energy level with the input power. Then you introduce a photon which is called an ion pair, when it actually interacts with something. This ion pair adds enough energy to the already charged medium to break the threshold voltage and knock loose electrons. These loose electrons are accelerated by the repulsive force of the negative ionization around the cathode towards the anode. But the anode and cathode are separated by an insulating barrier of non ionized gas. But the electron is now accelerated enough to shoot through this barrier which causes more reactions...

Now this process does have a name...It is called quantum tunneling.  Quantum tunneling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling

And new discoveries in Graphene have shown it to be a good photovoltaic material. The explanation sounds a lot like a Townsend avalanche is happening in the solid graphene. Which raises the question, why would this phenomenon only occur in a gas medium? It actually may not be limited to gas. Theoretically you could charge any solid matter to it's band gap (if it has one) and it would react just the same as the gas in a geiger tube.  Here is the research on Graphene..  warning PDF
http://koppensgroup.icfo.es/2012arxiv12101205v1_cond-ma.pdf

So now we are back to more similarities to nuclear fusion. I am really thinking that the Townsend avalanche is cold fusion.

mx1000

Quote from: yellowsnow2 on February 26, 2013, 02:15:05 PM
For anyone that might be following this thread
I have been researching the quantum mechanics of this townsend avalanche stuff and have come across a few things.

A geiger tube basically creates an uncomplete ionization in the tube. With one side being positive/magnetic north the other side being negative/magnetic south. With the center gas being a compressed insulator. This all mirrors the idea of "band gap" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_gap Which is the energy potential needed to knock an electron loose from the atom. And the neutral point between insulator and breakdown to conductor
So the so called Geiger Plateau is a mirror image to the Band Gap of solid state physics. It is in this range that carrier multiplication occurs.

So you are operating the tube in the band gap,  assisting it to this energy level with the input power. Then you introduce a photon which is called an ion pair, when it actually interacts with something. This ion pair adds enough energy to the already charged medium to break the threshold voltage and knock loose electrons. These loose electrons are accelerated by the repulsive force of the negative ionization around the cathode towards the anode. But the anode and cathode are separated by an insulating barrier of non ionized gas. But the electron is now accelerated enough to shoot through this barrier which causes more reactions...

Now this process does have a name...It is called quantum tunneling.  Quantum tunneling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling

And new discoveries in Graphene have shown it to be a good photovoltaic material. The explanation sounds a lot like a Townsend avalanche is happening in the solid graphene. Which raises the question, why would this phenomenon only occur in a gas medium? It actually may not be limited to gas. Theoretically you could charge any solid matter to it's band gap (if it has one) and it would react just the same as the gas in a geiger tube.  Here is the research on Graphene..  warning PDF
http://koppensgroup.icfo.es/2012arxiv12101205v1_cond-ma.pdf

So now we are back to more similarities to nuclear fusion. I am really thinking that the Townsend avalanche is cold fusion.
Can you please post a update, and/or link where you went ?

Sincerely.