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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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midnight_blue

Quote from: Maximumgravity1 on May 09, 2007, 10:20:13 PM
Midnight,

I am not sure, is it possible you uploaded the wrong file, or am I misreading something.  The file you have attached seems to be one of the files out of Z_P_E's zip file??!??!!  Moreover, I don't know if I am looking in the same place you are reading at the measuringsystemofthegods.com where the imaginary magnetic field is discussed.  Again, possible misreading on my part, just trying to get some clarification.

@maximum,

it is the golden rule for nature, here is the link

http://www.themeasuringsystemofthegods.com/page5.html

Regards,
Mark

allcanadian

Maximumgravity, good post, If you want to really understand Victor Schaubergers work get the book " energy evolution" by Callum Coats, I paid $26 at amazon.com.
This book is just unbelieveable, but I had to read it 3 times to finally get it. You have to put his terminology in the right context, for example he is always using the term "UR" meaning natural or naturalesque, like nature. If you define the meaning of his words before hand his message is very clear.
Like I said before, Tesla, Schauberger and Russell, they all describe the same thing, they all knew what we do not. But the times they are changing. I think all of us here are just starting to get a glimpse of what we have been missing and the possiblities of what could be done.
I think Walter Russell is more indepth than the others, He defines the actual process involved and gives real world examples to prove his point. So I think I accidentally followed the right progression of knowledge, that is reading Tesla which led me to Schauberger, giving me the knowledge to understand the huge works of Russell.
Don't misunderstand me though, I barely understand any of this, It is overwhelming, I understand a few of the general concepts.
What I do know, is that we are on the right track, we just have to put all the pieces of the puzzle together and accept what we see.

PS-- Good catch on that link midnight_blue, that website has some pretty good info
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

allcanadian

I think our biggest obstacle here is that we have started in the middle and not at the beginning of undertanding. We see technology men have devloped over years and years, years of thinking, reflection, analysing and experimenting, we have not seen the basis nor the foundation, we have nothing to build on. We are trying to build a house in mid-air, 50 feet off the ground.
So Im going to throw out some thoughts I have come to understand which have helped me along the way.

Perception and illusion
Imagine your a farmer at kittyhawk watching the wright brothers trying to make an airplane fly. As the farmer, back then I would find this crazy, I would imagine the wright brother flapping there arms and jumping trying to "catch" the air, I could see them grasping at the air trying to pull themselves upward, I would think they must be stupid somehow, don't they understand?. And the scientists, some nobel prize winners, would write in the newspaper I read that the wright brothers are crazy, they have proven by calculation that it cannot be done. But the wright brothers see the fast moving air over there wings as a substance as dense as water, even faster and this "air" becomes as hard as concrete, there wings could lift thousands of pounds.
So how is it that 99% of the people on this planet could be so absolutely delusional to this "fact"?
How is it that 99% of the smartest people would see this "fact" as not only impossible, but a complete waste of time, why bother?

This is the illusion, we have a limited perception and our senses are limited to the narrow confines of a small band of EM radiation. Our reality, the only one we know could be smoke and mirrors. The question I had to ask is , how would I know?, take the previous example of the farmer watching the wright brothers, How would he know?
How could the scientists not know? they are no better than the farmer!
Walter Russells article "the secret of light" gave me some very good clues. I see him describing the universe as being filled with cold magnetism. Matter simulates rest through fast violent motion, it is (+) high potential, condensed radiation of space, contraction of space is gravity. Space is radiated matter, dropping to a lower potential (-) through expansion to a lower pressure. Matter radiates becoming space, space condenses becoming matter. What we call matter is a condition of pressure and electrical stress.
All of Walter Russells thoughts describe what we know and see, but from a completely different perspective. And the problem is we don't know, we see at 24 frames per second ,reality happens at the speed of light.
So I think we need to understand that our reality, like the farmers could be flawed, we may see matter and space in the same light as the farmer saw air.
If we want to understand this technology we need to understand the most basic concepts of space and matter from someone who has succeeded in mastering it, not mainstream who believe it could never be done.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

Maximumgravity1

@Allcanadian

I am in 100% agreement with you, nor could I have stated any of what you said any better. I have been considering getting that particular book about Schauberger.  Good catch on the "UR" meaning.  I meant to define it in a parenthesis as "primaly procreate" when I posted the quote, but forgot to include that.

I too am begining to see the entirety of our mechanistic existence as ass-backwards.  I think erfinder stated it quite succintly when he said mainstream science is incomplete - not necassarily wrong.  I am begining to also see that we are enslaved to mainstream because we chose to be (as a collective group - by decisions made in years past).  We believe what they spoon feed us as "fact" - unerringly, and without question - sadly, because that is how we have been taught to "learn".  I see so many practical applications for Schauberger's knowledge, it would radically change the planet if we would just change our perception about what water is, how it flows, that it is alive, and that it is the life source for EVERYTHING.  This would lead to changes in the way we treat, funnel, channel and toxify water.  These changes alone would most likely have global impacts that would restore the planet to its intended condition in very short order.

As a side note, I got to take an hour for lunch yesterday, and sit by a river, and observe nature - as Shaurberger and Erfinder both suggested.  It was amazing.  In an hour, I was able to observationally prove most of Schaubergers thoughts about vortex movement of water.  I was also able to add to that understanding, and understood the meaning of "path of least resistance".  In a winding river, it was quite astonishing, not what I had envisioned.  The least resistive path is also the fastest way to move water from point A to point B.  In reading about Tesla and Schaubergers pumps and motors, it became clear EXACTLY what they meant by simulating nature.  Centripetal force is a three dimensional force, and it behaves three-dimensionally.  Because of this, centiripetal motion is the dominate motion - the dominating force.  With our efforts to forever push, prod, and expand natural forces, it is no wonder why our machinery is so inefficeint.  I also began to see why vortexes have limited to no friction.  It became clear in just observing the eddy currents.

Anyway, it was one of the most productive hours I have spent in a long while - plus with a picture perfect day, 70? shaded sun, a nice cool river breeze blowing in my face, it was hard to believe an hour could pass so quickly.  I am done with my ramblings, it is however, quite an eye-opening journey this is turning into !!

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I had to go out of State for a couple of days. I need to go back and read some of the postings that were made while I was gone. Welcome back midnight_blue.



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