Free Solid State/mechanical energy

[barbosi]

Thanks for the drawings and explanations.

...When poles void the flux curvature stops!  Our proof of this is can be seen when two opposite magnet poles are allowed to touch and void, the flux at that point no longer manifests externally?, flux curves around this point. 

Pretty obvious and easy to experiment to prove the theory.

Once the ring is voided completely something very unexpected happens.  North, South, and Void are made to manifest on one plane!  The flux lines travel like spiraling rays into and out of the ring! 
...

Intuitively, not only that makes sense, but I believe many vould have the feeling that is happening. However, is hard to have a debate in absense of phisical proof as result of experimentation. Since nobody with a stick can poke the light to prove its existence, maybe there are other ways to convince. I still believe I'm missing a valuable piece from the puzzle: What is the nature of North and what is the nature of South? This can eventualy lead to the more practical question: why gravitive vs. radiative? To be more precise, the question refers to a regular bar magnet (first figure).

[EDIT] Excerpt from http://www3.sympatico.ca/slavek.krepelka/ttf/hilite.htm

Two magnets in unlike pole orientation attract. Two magnets in alike pole orientation repulse. The only problem is, that if you release at least one of the magnets in alike orientation, it will flip around into unlike orientation and attract to the other magnet anyway. Are we to believe that the unlike, attractive pole orientation natural to magnets is equivalent to the forcefully retained repulsive orientation? Are we to believe that the fact, that mathematics can treat the two orientations in reverse, means that these two orientations are really inversely equivalent, when a simple observation states otherwise? Why would any rational person assume that magnets may exert repulsive force on each other when the natural magnetic force without exception is always attractive, even if it may mean that two magnets in alike orientation attract themselves away from each other? Sound like bull? If you wind a rope around a tree, you can pull a stone away from yourself pulling on the rope, can't you?

It fits with this theory, but again I'm still missing the whole picture.

[barbosi]

Not just one question.

1. What is the nature of North and what is the nature of South?
2. From fig. 1 Northe and South are two whirlpools bracing eachother in both gravitive and radiative manifestation?
3. While the funnels are shown in 3D, the axis given by the whirlpools are represented in the same plane. The radiative manifestation (outward whirlpools) shouldn't be spatial distributed, all around "Bloch wall"?
4. What mutations occur when you split a magnet to form two?

Regards.

PS: I notticed you edited your posting. I do not intend to be a drag, if you may point me to the readings, I'll do my work. If you consider this would be a noise to the purpose of the thread, please PM me with the info.

[barbosi]

Erfinder,

I greately apreciate your answers.
For a fairly rapid progress, studying is not always enough. One need to pause and reflect to ideas. With so much reading material, dispersion is not helping. At least now we can have the bird view of the filed and if one needs to contemplate a specific aspect, is free to do so in his own time and at his pace.

I understand many will be shocked, or indiferent, or not convinced, but so far I can asure anyone in this position, the lecture is full of sense while intriguing. While some aspects may not reflect common knowledge, the more you read the more it makes sense. However, the thinks one may not comprehend or agree upon, are subject for later reflection (what can it be more rewarding than trying and finding answers to questions few can deliver)

Thanks again and enjoying the quest.

Barbosi,

1. What is the nature of North and what is the nature of South?

My friend the answer to this question is more complicated.  It took me two years to understand it, thinking only on it day and night and you want me to sum it up for you in a sentence or two!  I will give it my best, but many of you will not like the anwser!

Let the truth be told, there is only one substance.  That substance is Mind.  Within Mind exists all knowledge and power.  Mind is Still Magnetic Light.  All idea in Mind is complete in it's entirety, it is however without form.  Mind has but one desire and this desire is to create bodies for it's ideas.  It is enabled to do this through thinking.  The thinking process of  Mind is a dual process, Concentration, and Decentration.  Concentration represents a seeming moving away from ones center in Mind.  Decentration represents a relaxing from thinking and return to ones center in Mind, this process is expressed electrically.  That being said the natures of north and south should now be apparent.  For too long the Creator has been stripped out of the equation, no longer!

2. From fig. 1 Northe and South are two whirlpools bracing eachother in both gravitive and radiative manifestation?

It must be understood that a magnet has four poles, not two!  Two poles charge the magnet, and two poles discharge it!  There are therefore four vortex! Two of them contract towards the center expressing the gravitive, or concentrative power of Mind Thinking, and the other two expand from the center expressing the radiative, or decentrative power of Mind Thinking.  This is demonstrated in the diagram.

3. While the funnels are shown in 3D, the axis given by the whirlpools are represented in the same plane. The radiative manifestation (outward whirlpools) shouldn't be spatial distributed, all around "Bloch wall"?

To answer this question I give you the following exercise.  Imagine you are standing on the top of a pyramid.  From your position you are enabled to see all within your field of view.  Imagine that your field of vision opens up and you are able to see 360 degrees from this position.  When you do this imagine 5 more pyramids have just appeared, they all combine with the one you are standing on top of to form a cube, and you are perfectly centered amongst all of them as you are on the apex of all of them.  This is the position from which the Bloch Wall occupies, it is from this position that the Bloch wall views the four vortex.  From your postion things contract towards you and expand away from you.

Your last question you don't need me to answer as you know very well what happens when a magnet is broken, and in time you will know why. 

I changed my post a bit because I was not direct enough, and at the same time I felt that the my attitude reflected a bit of impatients.  That was the reason for the change.  As far as reading material goes, you have all that you need posted here, and on the CD I sent you!  You don't need anymore then that.  Give yourself time, the anwsers you seek will unfold if your desire for it to unfold is strong enough.


Regards

[nat1971a]

Hi All,

Thanks for the feedback ERfinder. I will have to do some more research. I feel that we are making some progress to understand & cross reference what you are presenting here even if it is a small amount.

In the meantime I have been researching & cross referencing your description of the process at work here and shall post it shortly.

Regards,

N.

[nat1971a]

Hi All,

In analyzing ERFINDERS magnet ring we need to review & understand Viktor Schauberger?s implosion references.


IMPLOSION ? A REVIEW

Reference http://www.rhfweb.com/schauberger.html

The principles involved with Implosion technology: All movement is the outcome of attraction or repulsion; between expansion and contraction. All life forms develop as a mirror image, or, as  consequence of this activity, between polarities. By imitating the examples which nature shows us - both the creative and formative natural processes can be enhanced to a maximum output situation. When this natural principle is artificially accelerated, this energy source is made available

In Implosion technology, two types of motion are combined or simultaneously taking place ? Centrifugence & Centripetence

The working mechanism: the double cycloid spiral curve (as in a vortex) concentrates , contracts and compacts the water. This contraction cools and this cooling creates a vacuum. This vacuum augments suction, the whole process generates a diamagnetic force. Compacting physical matter to point beyond which it "dissolves" into its energetic form and thus allowing it to return into the physical, can be achieved artificially or mechanically.



Lets keep the review of implosion from above in mind when we analyse what has been described as happening in the magnet ring

Step 1. Connecting 8 neutral points (4 arc shaped magnets to form a ring) in a NSNSNSNS configuration forms a magnetic ring ? a vortex.

(This creates a path of least resistance - Reference http://www.earthtransitions.com/livingwater/lw_implosion.htm)


Step 2. This causes centripetal motion to occur.
(spiralling from the outer rim to the centre).
   Implosion ? Schauberger
   Attraction - Schauberger
   ?Contraction? - Schauberger

Step 3. Implosion causes centrifugal motion to occur.
   (Spiralling from the centre to the outer rim)
   ?Explosion? - Schauberger
   ?Repulsion? ? Schauberger
   ?Expansion? - Schauberger
               
Step 4.  Energy is radiated out from the centre of the vortex.

Reference http://www.missilegate.com/rfz/schauberger.htm

or ?Energy is radiated from the void?
   
   From the vacuum (Shauberger)
   From the neutral centre (Keely)
   From the ether (Tesla)
From the 5th dimension (Reference Shauberger - p291 Living Energies)

The energy that is radiated is in the form of diagmagnetism ? Schauberger


Reference
http://missilegate.com/rfz/schauberger.htm
Energy is radiated out from the center of the vortex (5). The Schauberger vortex may be visualized as a figure "8" according to Dr. Gordon Freeman, with the energy radiating out at the narrow mid-point between the upper and lower loops (6). This energy produces levitation. It may be diamagnetic energy as Schauberger believed (7).


So in summarising it appears that Schauberger's references correlate with ERfinder's posts.

Regards,

N.