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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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bocas

So,  as I see it, the inductor closes upon itself with the capacitor across it.  This makes it resonant at some frequency determined by the inductance and capacitance and produces current flow and power.  The higher the potential, the higher the power.

barbosi

Ok, I'm catching up with you...

Although what I stated if my previous answer stands as a mainstream science, Erfinder showed me (using Maximumgravity1's words) in a different perspective the "condenser".

Quote from: Maximumgravity1 on April 26, 2007, 10:30:05 PM
My simple organized question:

How does a condenser act as a filter, and what is it filtering?

... We are also told it produces impedance to alternating current.

We are told capacitors, inductors and resistors are "passive" components.
It seems to me a capacitor which produces [adapt its self to]  impedance function of the frequency of alternating current, is not that passive. If it doesn't exhibit intelligence, at least it has the memory to behave the same in similar conditions.
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barbosi

On a second thought, because of the intrinsic capacitance of secondaries, the equivalent circuit is shown in attached picture and the filter is band-pass.
As Charlie said, this circuit can be tuned to a resonant frequency (which one ?) with capacitor H.
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allcanadian

Im starting to piece this together now, my problem is perception- main stream perception. I solve problems by hacking them to pieces, reordering them, examining them so I know what Im dealing with, only then can I understand the fundamental problem.
Conceptually we don't understand what we have- so here is my understanding.

Electrostatic forces-
In nanotechnology you can cut a piece of aluminum into small grains and it will still act like aluminum, powder it and it still acts like aluminum, powder it to the 3 to 4 nanometer range and it becomes more explosive that TNT.
Take 60Hz 120v electricity and cut it into smaller pieces, high frequency/high voltage current and it starts acting less like electricity as Tesla said more like a gas, because it approaches the level of what everything is made of, matter held together by electrostatic forces.
In this light we can say there is no such thing as capacitance, capacitance is a word, it describes the electrostatic stress fields in matter, in an object or between objects.
There is no such thing as inductance, inductance is a word, it describes the motion of electrostatic forces, moving things tend to remain moving as stationary things tend to remain stationary unless acted upon by external stress fields.

So now our calculations mean nothing, we are dealing with the fundamental components of matter, at which point we should understand we are dealing with stress fields(attraction and repulsion) and motion. Our machine, what it is made of (matter) is as important as what it does. Resonance could then be seen as a function of mass as much as it is of frequency. Hence erfinder stressing the importance of frequency as well as length and "mass" of the coils. So resonance is the vibrational motion of electrostatic stress fields in matter, which obviously can effect matter and possibly change matter.
Everything I supposedly knew and understood in LC circuits and simple transformers has changed now. There is much more happening here and we can change the way these machine are supposed to work as well.
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Maximumgravity1

Gadzooks this site is addicting - only a few momenst on my lunch break.

Barbosi, thanks for the explanation, it didn't entirely answer what is being filtered (at least in this circuit) but it did answer what a filters job is. My question would be, in regards to the circuit what frequencies are we filtering - where did they come from?  WHy are we filtering them?  60Hz AC doesn't seem like high frequency to me...

In looking something up, I stumbled across this:

RESONANCE - A function on a filter in which a narrow band of frequencies (the resonant peak) becomes relatively more prominent. If the resonant peak is high enough, the filter will begin to oscillate, producing an audio output even in the absence of input. Filter resonance is also known as emphasis and Q. It is also referred to in some older instruments as regeneration or feedback, because feedback was used in the circuit to produce a resonant peak.
http://www.digitalhymnal.org/glossary_m-z.html#R

I know this is where Charlie will pipe up, as this seems to match his definition of resonance.  I don't know if this has anything to do with 464,666 but it is interesting that the possibility of so much capacitance in this circuit, and so many different devices acting as capacitors, this could be an induced AC current without a direct source.

BTW, I think it was allcanadian who asked if multiple frequencies could be in the same line - I asked this same question a while back, and found a quote that I had linked.  I couldn't find a direct source - only a third person retelling - but I believe it to be true.
I will post it again here.

http://www.thewaterengine.com/pdf/stevenmarktpu.pdf
On Page 10 of this PDF is the following quote:
"Now about the DC output with AC signal.  There is a book about Nicola Tesla "The Man who Had lightning in his hand". I suggest that you find a copy of that book and read it. In that book it is related that Tesla states that you can have all kinds of electrons flowing through a wire traveling in different directions relating only to their potential power source. He even said that you could have different electron flows through a single wire completely separate from each other. I tried it and he is right!"

I don't think Tesla would have said anything about electrons - I believe this is this persons remembering of Tesla's comment - but I could be wrong. That is why I was looking for the original source of this book.  But it leads me to believe the part about multiple flows in relation to their own potential power source.

Anyway, lunch is over, back to the grind....