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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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@allcanadian

"So I think my journey has just begun, this patent 464666 is just a motor, what I have learned in the process is priceless."

Very well stated.  I couldn't agree more.

EDIT: The link posted for The Secret of Light - is missing an "L" (html - not htm)
http://www.universal-tao.com/article/secret.html


Edit2: After reading Trump's post, I realized that i didn't make allcanadians original quote very clear.

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allcanadian

Well this is interesting.
I looked at patent 685957 and remembered I had built this circuit and experimented with it last year. I see now that I had no understanding of oscillations or energy flow when experimenting.
The patent 568176 looks very interesting and if you look at the time line of his patents here You can imagine Tesla stumbling on to weird effects in his circuits then building other machines to enhance this effect and track it's origin.
I had actually designed and started to build a circuit very similar to Teslas 568167 patent, my circuit replaced the inductor of a buck-booster(DC-DC switch mode converter) with a DC motor. My logic was that we don't actually "use" energy in our circuits we just waste all of it. My question was and still is "How can an inductor not use power but a stator armature can-they are one and the same?"So my DC current would drive a motor(inductor) like one of Teslas choking-coils, then a capacitor would store the Bemf high voltage and route it back to source. So it's pretty wild that I was so close to teslas circuit a year ago, but I had no idea of the bigger picture involved. I had impulse current but no oscillations nor high voltage secondaries. Last year feels like 20 years ago when I think about how far I have come and how far I have to go.
Anyways we should see the huge similarities between Teslas patent 568176 and patent 464666, he is moving in a specific direction with every patent.
I have also built Teslas patent 512340, his bifilar "pancake" coil. This is no ordinary coil, I built two coils using the same amount of wire, one an ordinary air core coil, the other like Teslas patent. Teslas coil was generating a huge amount of hash on my scope compared to the ordinary coil, and it should be noted that the magnetic field around this coil is not like an ordinary coil. I had mentioned many times on the net to people that a normal bifilar wound coil acts nothing like Teslas flat bifilar wound coil.
Well this post is getting long, Im still trying to put walter russells thoughts into context with teslas, I think this is very important to understand the bigger picture first, then expand on this.
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Quote from: allcanadian on May 06, 2007, 09:34:46 AM
My question was and still is "How can an inductor not use power but a stator armature can-they are one and the same?

There is one slight difference...the stator coil version will have voltage induced in it simultaneous with applied pulsing through it. There can be bucking or adding fields and voltages in the coil depending on configuration. If the fields and voltages are configured to buck, this may account for the power loss you are experiencing and/or thinking about.

At any rate, real inductors consume real power, but what did you mean exactly? There are AC and DC winding resistance losses, and also core losses if there is one. See the following for an excellent brief tutorial on inductor power losses: http://powerelectronics.com/mag/504PET20.pdf

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I have also built Teslas patent 512340, his bifilar "pancake" coil. This is no ordinary coil, I built two coils using the same amount of wire, one an ordinary air core coil, the other like Teslas patent. Teslas coil was generating a huge amount of hash on my scope compared to the ordinary coil,

This is interesting. What do you mean by "hash"? Something you observed from the coil just sitting on the bench, or whilst being pulsed?

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and it should be noted that the magnetic field around this coil is not like an ordinary coil.

There should be little if any magnetic field detected with this coil. If the wires are twisted before winding, there will be even less detectable field.

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I had mentioned many times on the net to people that a normal bifilar wound coil acts nothing like Teslas flat bifilar wound coil.

Depends what you mean by "normal bifilar". Bifilar simply means two wires wound together simultaneously. How they are connected afterwards determines what you will get from it. Tesla's bifilar pancake coil is simply a very narrow but fat solenoidal coil wound and connected in series (opposing) bifilar.

Darren