Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

[Farmhand]

Tesla's Claims in the patent are correct that is the main thing.

What I claim as my invention is

1.  A coil for electric apparatus the adjacent
convolutions of which form parts of the
circuit between which there exists a potential    45
difference sufficient to secure in the coil a capacity
capable of neutralizing its self induction as hereinbefore described.

2.  A coil composed of contiguous or adjacent
insulated conductors electrically connected        50     
in series and having a potential difference of
such value as to give to the coil as a whole a
capacity sufficient to neutralize its self induction
as set forth.  NIKOLA TESLA

Here is what I think the claims are saying. If the voltage is too low, then the distance between the capacitor "plates" is too great for the capacity to be effectively used.
ie. If the conductors have insulation 5 mm thick then using 1 volt won't utilize the capacity very well and the capacity will not then contribute to the lowering of the resonance frequency. Kinda like trying to use 1 volt with a HV parallel plate air capacitor with 10 mm spacing between the plates, it won't work very well.

It makes sense to me.

Weather or not the coil is special is not a concern to me. The patent claims are correct and I think that is what he means when he says the words in bold above.

Rather than trying to argue angles or such things why not just take the claims and find if they are correct or not. Tesla's patents do not need to be dismissed or defended if they are making claims that are true. Simple. Any claims not made by Tesla are other peoples making.

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[Farmhand]

MileHigh, I do understand, it is important to stay grounded. But I don't know why you would assume all I want to do is spin a rotor faster when I am doing load tests. I want to power loads if I can, if not it won't go past a prototype. What would be the point ?

Same with the pulse motor build off. What do they judge on ? Is it the prettiness or the micro power draw for no work ?
Or is it the most work for the least cost like what motors are for ?

My circuit has provision for voltage increase so I don't need to wait for 5 minutes for the rotor to speed up, it takes 5 seconds instead maybe 8 max.  And that's fair dinkum, no kidding. 

Have you seen a pulse motor before with my design ? Why can't it be comparable to a conventional motor ? And flexible.

I'm not claiming any free energy, I'm just making things.

Tesla never claimed any OU, he had devices that collected energy from the environment like a solar panel or wind turbine does.

All the crazy OU claims are made by others.

Cheers

[MileHigh]

Farmhand:

I am not sure exactly what he means by "neutralizing its self-induction."  This is 19th century technical English that is sometimes also reworded for 19th century lay people.

I interpret it as the coil is self-resonating such that the inductance is "occupied" and part of an LC resonator.  It doesn't mean that it's "neutralized" and can be more easily energized.

Alternatively, from an AC excitation perspective we know that a self-resonating coil will not exhibit the property of AC inductance anymore with a 90 phase shift and a power factor of zero.  The inductance will be "neutralized" and appear as an AC open circuit, or as an AC short circuit.  Do you think that's what it means?

I asked Magluvin and he bowed out and threw the question back at me.  What do you think?

One thing is for sure, there is nothing at all in the patent about pulse motors or using the coil configuration in a pulse motor.  Nada.

Timing and the related conduction angle is probably the most important aspect to the operation of the pulse motor.  All pulse circuits are based on timing analysis.

MileHigh

P.S.:  Not sure what the criteria are that they use for the judging in the pulse motor build-offs.  Certainly "coolness factor" carries a lot of weight.

[Farmhand]

MileHigh, I hope you were not referring to me when you said about claiming "the power comes up from the ground". I never claimed that. Not ever.

Yes I do realize the timing of the pulses and the resulting current times are important that is why I am experimenting with it.

And I can't recall claiming that a Tesla type bifilar coil would make a better pulse motor coil, my coils are wound normally why would I do that ?

I think I mentioned that the neutralizing of the inductance allows the current to flow as if the was no self inductance, just the DC resistance.

Didn't you read the patent ? Lines 40 to 45.

I have found that in every coil there exists 40
a certain relation between its self induction
and capacity that permits a current of given
frequency and potential to pass through it with
no other opposition than that of ohmic resistance
or in other words as though it possessed no self induction. 45

What do you think?

I'm not going to answer directly your question because it doesn't really matter what I think, what matters is what is.

Cheers

[MileHigh]

Farmhand:

I wasn't attributing those statements to you.  Sorry I am tired and was not clear enough.

Thanks also for pointing out the lines in the patent again.  There Tesla is clearly describing a series LC resonator.  So a series LC resonator can become an AC short circuit at the resonance frequency.  That means AC power will flow straight through the series LC resonator except for the power dissipated in the series resistance of the wire.  I made reference to that in my previous posting.

Can that property of series LC resonance be used to advantage in a pulse motor?  Do you observe it in anybody's pulse motor?  I will leave that up to you guys to explore that.  Certainly it looks like the tests in the YouTube clips make a stand-alone coil in self-resonance appear to act like a parallel LC resonator.

I'm not going to answer directly your question because it doesn't really matter what I think, what matters is what is.

I have to disagree with you here.  If this concept is one of the central themes for this thread, surely everybody should be on the same page as to the understanding of exactly what it means.  If you don't then it just becomes a catch phrase with no substance behind it.

MileHigh