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Overunity Machines Forum



Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

Started by Farmhand, April 21, 2013, 09:00:24 AM

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synchro1

Bifilar vs single wrap nail magnet test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mxtwS2OsaA&feature=youtu.be


It's a trick! The joke's on you. The bifliar can store the high voltage from the collapse spike, and create a permanent magnet, but it passes right through the single wire coil.

MileHigh

Synchro1:

You know that when you disconnect the current-carrying wire from an SBC you get the high voltage spike.  That's actually the first spike in a series of spikes.  It's the ring-down as the self-resonating coil dissipates the stored energy.

The ring-down in the coil like that is what they could use to demagnetize ferromagnetic materials.  So I suggest that you do some surfing and think about your setup some more.

I am not necessarily saying that's what is happening in your setup, I am referring to the general architecture of a magnetizing system.

MileHigh

gyulasun

Synchro1

I have mentioned to you to use small pieces of test loads for the electromagnets, either using small nuts like I showed in my repeated test or just cut up some paper clips into 2 or max 3 mm long pieces. The reason I ask you to use small pieces of test loads is that your electromagnets seems to be also weak like my electromagnets were and the touching areas between the bolt and the clip surfaces are very small. I felt uncertainty during my tests with the clips but I was fully certain with the small nuts. The clips were too heavy for the strength of my electromagnets, and I can see the same behaviour from your electromagnets.

What is battery voltage by the way when you connect any one of the electromagnets? Would you measure it?


Gyula

synchro1

Quote from: gyulasun on May 24, 2013, 05:26:25 PM
Synchro1

I have mentioned to you to use small pieces of test loads for the electromagnets, either using small nuts like I showed in my repeated test or just cut up some paper clips into 2 or max 3 mm long pieces. The reason I ask you to use small pieces of test loads is that your electromagnets seems to be also weak like my electromagnets were and the touching areas between the bolt and the clip surfaces are very small. I felt uncertainty during my tests with the clips but I was fully certain with the small nuts. The clips were too heavy for the strength of my electromagnets, and I can see the same behaviour from your electromagnets.

What is battery voltage by the way when you connect any one of the electromagnets? Would you measure it?


Gyula

Apparently, you still don't get it. The SBC nail core continues to pick up the two clips up even with the power disconnected. The core is completely magnetized. The best way to magnetize is by sudden shock. The bifilar throws a bigger spark. The single wire coil won't work as well as a magnetizer. You retry the experiment.

gyulasun

Quote from: synchro1 on May 24, 2013, 05:31:12 PM

Apparently, you still don't get it. The SBC nail core continues to pick up the two clips up even with the power disconnected. The core is completely magnetized. The best way to magnetize is by sudden shock. The bifilar throws a bigger spark. The single wire coil won't work as well as a magnetizer. You retry the experiment.

Indeed I did not see from your video that the current to the SBC electromagnet was disconnected. Then this is comparing apple to oranges, this is not a proof for the SBC at all.  The test is not about to make permanent magnets from nails but compare two kind of coils with nail cores. Magluvin or myself did not make permanent magnetization to the nails or bolts, it is pointless to saturate an electromagnet's core. 

And please answer my question when any of your electromagnets are connected to the battery what is the loaded voltage across the battery?