Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

[MileHigh]

It was just proven and the good readers of this thread have no problem recognizing a troll.

[Magluvin]

It was just proven and the good readers of this thread have no problem recognizing a troll.

Lol. The guy that pushes people to prove everything they say, yet is immune to his own rules he pushes upon everyone else.  Hmmm. I know a guy like that. Spittin image. You know, that guy on tv every once in a while, been around about 41/2 years or so. You know.

Yes, the readers see that you are telling stories that you cannot prove. Like the way you treat Jbigs and Syncro for their ideas and pester them to death  to prove what they say or else they will never hear the end of it.

So now it is you that needs to step up and prove your story. And if you cant then nobody here needs to answer any of your questions. None. Why should they? You dont do it for them or me. A bit one sided Ay? Hmmm??? 

Yes, this is what the readers are reading. Been over 100 of them today alone.  Gota love them readers. 

Sleep tight.





Mags

[MileHigh]

Magluvin squirm all you want.  Go to post #434 and have another look.  I know you saw it but you can't acknowledge that you are wrong and you end off the night with an attempt at deflection.

Hopefully you and others will generate some legitimate data about the coil configuration as per Tesla's patent.  Easier said than done.

Rational analysis of this special coil configuration is telling us that it is marginally different from a regular coil of the same number of turns and dimensions.  That's what we are trying to examine here.  The claims and the fantasy claims versus the rational analysis and the actual bench testing.  Which ones are real?  Which ones are the truth?  I think of the excellent contributor Itsu and his great clips.  He has been examining Kapanadze claims on his bench for months and months and none of the claims and speculations from the various Kapanadze threads have ever turned out to be true.

I have done the testing on the bench myself, and yes, it was a long time ago.  BFD.  I have measured the inductance by looking at the L/R time constant of a coil.  I have measured the energy stored in a coil.  I have done the AC and pulse analysis of a coil on the bench.  I have measured the core saturation level.  I have sat through all of the derivations based on looking at the geometry of the coil.  I understand the differential and integral equations that describe the behaviour of a coil.  I have done the S-parameter modelling for a coil.  I have done the linear network analysis that allows you to solve for all loop currents and node voltages in a circuit where coils are some of the circuit elements.

So going back to the basics:  What can we say about this coil configuration in looking at the patent, and looking at what we know about how a coil actually works, and what we can see on the bench?  For this most basic of components are we going to try and understand it, or is the "free for all" mentality going to extend down to the most basic circuit components that people work with on a daily basis?  Do we delude ourselves and listen to anything anybody says about the coil or do we try to really understand how a coil works so we can apply that knowledge to other circuits and other experiments?

This notion that I am somehow a "bad guy" for trying to get enthusiasts to understand the basics so that they can get more out of their bench experimenting and circuit analysis is just plain ridiculous.  I am fully aware of the self-defeating patterns that happen over and over on the threads.  The fact that we can't even try to get on the same page for a bloody coil says a lot about the state of free energy research.

MileHigh

[Artoj]

Hi All, while I was reading this thread, I am also working on my basic coil designs, so I decided to show the readers how easy it is to work out some of the simple coil parameters required before winding. I hope this helps those who need to wind a coil suitable for their experiments. Regards Arto.

[Magluvin]

Magluvin squirm all you want.  Go to post #434 and have another look.  I know you saw it but you can't acknowledge that you are wrong and you end off the night with an attempt at deflection.

Hopefully you and others will generate some legitimate data about the coil configuration as per Tesla's patent.  Easier said than done.

Rational analysis of this special coil configuration is telling us that it is marginally different from a regular coil of the same number of turns and dimensions.  That's what we are trying to examine here.  The claims and the fantasy claims versus the rational analysis and the actual bench testing.  Which ones are real?  Which ones are the truth?  I think of the excellent contributor Itsu and his great clips.  He has been examining Kapanadze claims on his bench for months and months and none of the claims and speculations from the various Kapanadze threads have ever turned out to be true.

I have done the testing on the bench myself, and yes, it was a long time ago.  BFD.  I have measured the inductance by looking at the L/R time constant of a coil.  I have measured the energy stored in a coil.  I have done the AC and pulse analysis of a coil on the bench.  I have measured the core saturation level.  I have sat through all of the derivations based on looking at the geometry of the coil.  I understand the differential and integral equations that describe the behaviour of a coil.  I have done the S-parameter modelling for a coil.  I have done the linear network analysis that allows you to solve for all loop currents and node voltages in a circuit where coils are some of the circuit elements.

So going back to the basics:  What can we say about this coil configuration in looking at the patent, and looking at what we know about how a coil actually works, and what we can see on the bench?  For this most basic of components are we going to try and understand it, or is the "free for all" mentality going to extend down to the most basic circuit components that people work with on a daily basis?  Do we delude ourselves and listen to anything anybody says about the coil or do we try to really understand how a coil works so we can apply that knowledge to other circuits and other experiments?

This notion that I am somehow a "bad guy" for trying to get enthusiasts to understand the basics so that they can get more out of their bench experimenting and circuit analysis is just plain ridiculous.  I am fully aware of the self-defeating patterns that happen over and over on the threads.  The fact that we can't even try to get on the same page for a bloody coil says a lot about the state of free energy research.

MileHigh

"Magluvin squirm all you want.  Go to post #434 and have another look.  I know you saw it but you can't acknowledge that you are wrong and you end off the night with an attempt at deflection."


Squirm???   First off you said you 'taught' me about AC DC a couple weeks ago lastnight and I called you on it, and the link you give is from a couple days ago???  Nice try liar.  Or maybe your memory was off when you wrote that yesterday.

Anyone who reads what we talked about lastnight will know now that you LIE.  And thats a fact.    

lol, how do you live with yourself lying like that?  Compulsive? Or you just have to always be right even when wrong(lying)? You are a fool to think that 'we the readers' cant see though what you are saying.   I rank you up there with Rose Ainslie's lies. From one page to the next, lies.

Lets see what you come up with today.    The readers are watching.  300 more since my last post about 7 hours ago. lol 

I gota go to work.  Have a nice LIE, I mean day. 


Mags