Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

[jbignes5]

See Milehigh all of your posts are gobbly gook that gets pushed onto us. We are trying to look at this from both sides and not just one.


Take for example the electrical-magnetics side. Each component have very different effects. Of which most of the current theories fall short of including or taking advantage of. Ignore one half and you miss an important advantage.


You can bash the Theories of the now with theories that have been cherry picked over the last hundred years but these effects are very real non the less.


The bifilar design incorporates both and should amplify the output because both elements are included and taken advantage of in my design. Believe what you will but the simple fact of the matter is that your theories fall short of doing anything but focusing on the magnetic when there are two very distinct events happening in the bifilar design. Voltage and magnetic fields are utilized in the design. Both. Strengthen one and the other amplifies or adjusts.


But no amount of bible thumping will change the fundamental rules. The only thing that does change is the perspective of the observer. Look at it in the half empty way and you are not looking at the half full perspective. But look at it for the whole view and you start to see certain advantages that can be taken advantage of. That there is a relationship of the fulcrum between both effects.


If inductive effects are or can be tied to the e-field then under certain conditions we can use this under certain transformation rules inside of the device excited into real current. But as in my diagram I posted These thing will have to be included and not excluded.


You say that you do not focus on the magnetic and you then focus all your examples on such?


The increased capacitance uses voltage as an operator. Including this higher capacitance must change the output. And since it is in serial mode this has a direct relationship to cause and effect. This isn't a normal capacitance effect because it is intrinsic to the design. Separating the capacitance like it was external to the device does nothing to explain the benefits of incorporating the capacitance within the device. But including this effect within the device has a relationship in phase to the input AC waveform going through the bifilar coil. This can have amplified effects on the output.


Lets look at the delayed lenz effect and how it can be utilized as an advantage. The delay is in phase and using standing wave patterns or methods to get standing waves helps with getting more from the input as output.


As for your balking on even looking into "The electric Universe" Well that is just the proof that most of You bible thumpers ignore, you ignore the wall and always bang your head in the process. The Electric Universe theory, at this point it is just a theory But it is gaining momentum because it is backed with FACTS and observations from the right perspective. Most of the results are irrefutable. Yet you choose to ignore the facts and observations of those facts. There is a great many problems with our views of the Universe and we are part of that Universe, under the Same Rules. Once we start getting more FACTS and Observations of those facts, we must adjust our definitions or explanations to match those Facts and observations or be deluded into thinking way outside of the natural process going on in that Universe.


In the Bifilar design you have an AC waveform flowing through the bifilar coils at resonant conditions while under the effects of External and Self excitation through induction. The simple fact of the matter is that you are ignoring that there are indeed two coils in the bifilar design. Parallel wires but serial opposite connection. Just seeing the design under action we can see one waveform overlapping the other. Both coils energize from the exterior of the coil to the center and both coils have an amplified output and sort of latching loop when the output is compared to the input. Focusing the electric field will also have certain intensifying effects from one coil to the other. So there is a imbalance in the electric field at that point. The outter field will be less concentrated and less energetic. While moving inwards it constricts and raises the intensity of the voltage which gets applied across the increased Capacitance of the bifilar coil. It gets more powerful because the interwind capacitance is increased in this design. That capacitance will hold much more energy then a traditional coil and can augment the fields in the same process through the capacative induction(reactive). This could be compared to a bias type effect. Fill the well and it's pressure increases. Allow the capacitance to fill and it becomes stronger. Augment the inductive field and it becomes stronger. Especially when we time the external field with the second phase or coil or maybe include both in the process.


The bifilar coil must have a certain surface area. The larger that surface the better the effects can be seen. Most of the experiments I see are with small to medium coils. No one hast tested the larger coils to date and I suspect as to why is that they do not want these observations to be made. Most will take your approach and have nothing experimental to say about these coils or methods. They do nothing but use the current dogma and refuse to observe anymore. They turn a blind eye to the facts starring them in the face and nothing will tempt them from the lofty position you now put your theories. Those theories will be challenged and will be brought into the proper relations with themselves, no matter what you pencil pushing engineers say or do. You always say you have no bench or will have no bench. You have tested the bifilar coil from your perspective and naturally found nothing special from your view of things. You thump you bible and proselytize the virtues of your way. One thing I would like you to know is that there are many beliefs in this world, who is right? Maybe it is all of them, key aspects from all of the worlds religions, when looked at the whole, rings many truths.


I just wanted to leave one vision of my daily life.


I have 3 beautiful disabled children. One of the children is labeled mentally retarded and is the second oldest. Everyday he comes in my room in the morning and tells me that he loves me. I tell him to have a wonderful day and he goes out into this world with a different kinda view on things. His disposition, well lets just say, is passive and loving. The perfect human. He loves everything because he is really alive. His real father is a crap stain on society. He is in jail more times then he is out and has little to do with his sons everyday life. I on the other hand is his real father in action and love.


The other day he asked me what I was doing. I was posting one of my long posts and I decided to explain it to him. Low and behold he got the concept very quickly. How? How can he understand this process and you can not. How can he see all of the components and see they are very connected and you can not. How can he see reality and you only see the Ideal? My boy is not retarded, he sees life in the most simplest of terms and values the ones who make his life comfortable. He has taught me tons about science and the proper methods to approach my investigations.


as for doing. Well I will do this. I will get my answers either way.


Why don't you challenge yourself to approach these ideas in the proper method and really see the facts for yourself. We hear you clearly when you say that you don have a bench and that you will never have another bench. So you won't even approach this investigation with self evidence. But you will shout from the rooftops that you have done the proper experiments to prove this to yourself. You would rather use improper approaches to study something because it reinforces your argument. Thats fine but you need to back off the ones trying to do a study of this coil. You can bang your chest and make an ass of yourself but it doesn't change the fact that we will be doing these experiments and we will be looking into these effects.
Say what you will this coil will be fully investigated and explored. There is more here then meets the eye.

[MileHigh]

Jbignes5:

There is no point in having a theoretical discussion, that's why I am suggesting discussing your bench tests of the cap-coil.

Yes, there will be some interesting electrical dynamics when examining the cap-coil.  We know that inductance can amplify voltage but energy is conserved.  We know that capacitance can amplify current but energy is conserved.  Capacitors and inductors are in some ways very similar, almost the same thing in a way.

You have to remember that a cap-coil is a passive electrical circuit component.  It can't possibly amplify energy in any way.  From my perspective you are conjuring up imagined fantastical properties about the cap-coil, I don't know where from.

So like I said before, we have to agree to disagree on theory and look at a real example on the bench.

Ultimately there is only one truth about the cap-coil.  The observer can impose his or hew own bias on what he or she sees when testing is done on the bench, but Mother Nature does not lie.  The thing to do is always question yourself and try to make alternative measurements to confirm or deny your hypotheses.  What we are really trying to do is understand what Nature is telling us.

Nature is all about harmony and balance, so the Yin-Yang business is always in play.  For example, when you drop a book on the floor, you end up heating up the walls in the room.  Some people might not be able to see that or they might even think that you are crazy to say that.  For me, it's crystal clear as to how and why the walls of the room get heated up when you drop a book on the floor.

MileHigh

[jbignes5]

Jbignes5:

There is no point in having a theoretical discussion, that's why I am suggesting discussing your bench tests of the cap-coil.

Yes, there will be some interesting electrical dynamics when examining the cap-coil.  We know that inductance can amplify voltage but energy is conserved.  We know that capacitance can amplify current but energy is conserved.  Capacitors and inductors are in some ways very similar, almost the same thing in a way.

You have to remember that a cap-coil is a passive electrical circuit component.  It can't possibly amplify energy in any way.  From my perspective you are conjuring up imagined fantastical properties about the cap-coil, I don't know where from.

So like I said before, we have to agree to disagree on theory and look at a real example on the bench.

Ultimately there is only one truth about the cap-coil.  The observer can impose his or hew own bias on what he or she sees when testing is done on the bench, but Mother Nature does not lie.  The thing to do is always question yourself and try to make alternative measurements to confirm or deny your hypotheses.  What we are really trying to do is understand what Nature is telling us.

Nature is all about harmony and balance, so the Yin-Yang business is always in play.  For example, when you drop a book on the floor, you end up heating up the walls in the room.  Some people might not be able to see that or they might even think that you are crazy to say that.  For me, it's crystal clear as to how and why the walls of the room get heated up when you drop a book on the floor.

MileHigh

The thing is you are again describing an ideal system or device. No real world system is a closed system. In some way that idea clung to our closed minds. There is no such thing as a closed system. There is no such thing as conservation of energy in our current systems. They all interact with the environment. Everything Radiates into the environment and the environment radiates into our devices. That is a simple fact that has always been overlooked in our science and another reason that electronics is plagued with interference and wide band spurious emissions.


If you get one thing out of Eric's ideas, keep the simple fact that all energy is outside of the devices we make. Every wire and every block of metal is subjected to the environmental conditions around it. And this external movement of whatever you choose to believe in gets moved by these radiations. These local changes in density creates massive flows in the medium around that device. If you are smarter then the rest then applying hydrodynamics, as we do with air devices should net the same benefits.

This should work to our advantage in the energy field. These fields have shown a fluid like property and should act much like fluids do with solids. I suspect there is another relationship to these kinds of energy fields. One is constrictive and the other is expansive just like the phase change that is much like water turning to ice. One is explosively expansive and the other collapses under pressure when active. The degree of it's expansiveness could be gleaned from waters transit to ice and the relation of 32 degrees being the balance point. From a logical point of view that makes sense.


Hopefully this will make more sense from the experiments I plan on doing. We will have to see.


Right now my whole energy is trying to get to a point where I can move around without pain. My health is paramount to my whole being. In time I will get to each experiment. But up to the point of doing the experiments I found it better to explore these areas fully in theory. Not only do we have to isolate these effects we must understand the processes behind them. This can only be done through examination of the current science to see where we went wrong. Why did we go in the direction we did. And the consensus is that money and economics have tied our hands to the ideas currently accepted. If money isn't backing your ideas then how can they effectively get developed. Well they can't. This is why we are here today saying there must be something better for everyone. But the ones in power don't like equality, they like being first in line and don't have a care on how they get there.


It will take time because i have zero budget any more. But I am getting the stuff I need together to do the investigations slowly.

[Paul-R]

But it may be out of production. Patrick's book suggests the A1302. Is this OK?

JLN is using a TL4935L in a new Bedini device.

[MileHigh]

Here is some Wikidness of interest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_filter

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A mechanical filter is a signal processing filter usually used in place of an electronic filter at radio frequencies. Its purpose is the same as that of a normal electronic filter: to pass a range of signal frequencies, but to block others. The filter acts on mechanical vibrations which are the analogue of the electrical signal. At the input and output of the filter, transducers convert the electrical signal into, and then back from, these mechanical vibrations.

The components of a mechanical filter are all directly analogous to the various elements found in electrical circuits. The mechanical elements obey mathematical functions which are identical to their corresponding electrical elements. This makes it possible to apply electrical network analysis and filter design methods to mechanical filters. Electrical theory has developed a large library of mathematical forms that produce useful filter frequency responses and the mechanical filter designer is able to make direct use of these. It is only necessary to set the mechanical components to appropriate values to produce a filter with an identical response to the electrical counterpart.

Steel and nickel–iron alloys are common materials for mechanical filter components; nickel is sometimes used for the input and output couplings. Resonators in the filter made from these materials need to be machined to precisely adjust their resonance frequency before final assembly.
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The theory of mechanical filters was first applied to improving the mechanical parts of phonographs in the 1920s. By the 1950s mechanical filters were being manufactured as self-contained components for applications in radio transmitters and high-end receivers. The high "quality factor", Q, that mechanical resonators can attain, far higher than that of an all-electrical LC circuit, made possible the construction of mechanical filters with excellent selectivity. Good selectivity, being important in radio receivers, made such filters highly attractive. Contemporary researchers are working on microelectromechanical filters, the mechanical devices corresponding to electronic integrated circuits.

A bunch of cap-coil Muppets waiting for the bus in the wintertime:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdwLF0rM-pk

Then go back in the other direction!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt6RVrmvh-o