Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

[jbignes5]

Yes, thats the way I believe a pancake transformer should work, with the primary on the same plane. Thats the way it is illustrated in Tesla's patents. But it is a rare sighting to see others doing it this way.

Mags

Well it is not quite a transformer in a true sense of the word. The loop around the bifilar coil will be used as an exciter element for the purpose of biasing the current that goes through the bifilar coil. Of course I could also use a reflector type design to receive the heavy magnetic field from the flat side of the bifilar coil and convert it to very high voltages in a passive manner and rebroadcast that high voltage via the electric field back into the bifilar coil in theory. This could be accomplished by using a different gauge wire for the regular pancake solenoid reflector when compared to the gauge of the bifilar. But distance, phase and size of the coils will be an issue an might not work the way I am thinking in the passive mode. Maybe like Lasersaber has done we might try very close reflection distances to remove some of these expected problems. The phase problem will have to be worked studied more before I comment any further on the reflector.


Now as mentioned this has been done before to a degree. I believe lasersaber has done some work in this direction. So there is some roadwork done already. Thane Hines has done work in this direction as well with a buried high voltage coil inside of a heavy current coil and has found that it does Speed up a rotor. This speed increase is essentially free but it was never been researched beyond a certain point. We might even have to change the geometry of the bifilar coil to a tube like coil setup and use a toroid as the concentrating medium like Stivep has done before. But then we have to deal with saturation effects of the medium we choose to focus the magnetic force. One way to get around this might be to get rid of the medium of ferrite as in the example of the new device of Akula (Kapanadze style device) and make an air coil setup on a donut form that is non conductive. Well I think maybe I have gone too far and should wait for my material to come in the mail before speculating any further.


Lets hear your guys ideas and experiences on this subject.

[synchro1]

@Jbigness5,

Just wire it up. I bet anything will work. All the phase problems you imagine will most likely solve themselves once it's built.


Do you have any references for Thane's twin coil? This sounds like the Mag Amp design Skycollection uses with his lenz delay effect Toroid Pancake. The series bifliar is universally acknowledged as a superior pick up coil as well as a transmitter as shown by Tinselkoala.


The PM output coil core or "coil core" coil both interfere with the overall operating efficiency of the coil retarding the pole shift, producing propulsion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1dc0DPFpOQ&feature=em-subs_digest&list=TLXp1XUU52kgE

[MileHigh]

Well I give up here for now.  It's obvious that it's not sinking in in the public aspect of this thread.  However, for the silent majority that are reading this thread it's another story all together.  The truth always percolates to the top in the long run.  Then the 'theatrical' aspects of this thread are just too much.  Then there is the Babel fish issue, and I am sure that the silent majority are having a chuckle or two about that one.

Jbignes5:

I look forward to seeing your tests and reports or YouTube clips, wherever your research into your claim takes you.  You have a rough sketch for a start which you posted.  Hopefully before too long you can turn that into a schematic.  It would really help to make a timing diagram that illustrates what you are talking about in your descriptions.  Then you can go to the bench and make measurements of all of your signals and also do power input and power output measurements.  I am assuming that the goal for what you are talking about is electrical over unity.

The better you document yourself and the more you relate your descriptions to your schematic and to your timing diagrams the stronger your case will be.  Then making actual bench measurements with a scope to confirm that your timing diagrams are correct, and well documented power in and power out measurements will be the icing on the cake.

I am looking forward to seeing your project develop.

MileHigh

[Magluvin]

I got a PM from Milehigh and Im going to respond to it here....

"Why do you act like this Magluvin?   Do you just 'hate' me for the sake of hating me?  What is your motivation, I would really like to know?

MileHigh"


I dont hate you. But when you come in here and downplay peoples ideas and call them Tesla fan boys and all that crap, then you post half baked statements about Tesla to further your rant, and then say that you had seen it in a documentary about Tesla years ago and you dont remember much, yeah, theres some motivation. If you think that Jbigs ideas and postings are dazed and confused, well your knowledge of Tesla is far closer to being dazed and confused as compared to Jbigs trying to actually study and figure out some things.

You dont know much about Tesla. We see that now. So why dont you come back when you educate yourself a bit on the subject, so that we can all be on the same level. If you make any more false statements on Tesla, I will call you on it. So either study up or dont say it if your not sure about it. It doesnt help your case any if its not factual. Or does it?    

Mags

[sparks]

  I think the coil functions just like Tesla designed it to.   Store up oscillations impressed on it by the 2 or 3 turn primary.  It acts the same way a tank is used to remove the carrier frequency from the signal to be amplified.  It offers infinite impedance to the passage of voltage when the voltage impressed on the blocking oscillator comes at the resonant frequency of the tank.  If the carrier frequency isn't blocked it creates noise in the signal.   The blocking oscillator incorporates resistance and the energy of the carrier frequency is changed into heat.  The generator in a Tesla magnifying transmitter is used as a negative resistance unit.   This insures no ringdown occurs.    So like he said he could develop hundreds of thousands of horsepower in the tank from a generator with a 100 horsepower engine.   If you watch guys with Tesla coils make big streamers.   After every big streamer you can here the tank filling up.   The voltage gets too high at the safety port and the high voltage is dumped to ground though the plasma formed at the sharp pointy thing used like a pressure unloader valve on a boiler.    If the guy is using a pole pig transformer at say 10kva rating these Tesla wannabee machines are storing 10kva input for about 10 seconds.   So they can get 1kva out for 100 seconds or billions of kva for a real brief energy dump.