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Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

Started by Farmhand, April 21, 2013, 09:00:24 AM

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MileHigh

Farmhand:

I looked at parts of your clip.  You can see how you are investigating both the power measurement approach and the waveform approach to your circuit and when you switch in different types of loads, etc.  So it's along the lines of what I discussed but it's not the complete set of measurements to get the complete picture.  One thing I did not touch on in my previous posting also worth mentioning is by now an old theme:  If you change the load, you assume that you change the overall impedance of the entire setup.  That will change the power consumption and could have other effects related to impedance matching and rotor speed, etc.

It's a lot of work to 100% dissect a circuit and if you go to school it's an exercise that you might only do a few times.  It might be for your course project or something.  Then you can apply that general knowledge and the underlying principles to similar circuits.  There must be hundreds of delayed Lenz clips and "reduction in power when load added" clips so there has go to be a lot of commonality among them.  So you can make some generalizations, but you can't apply that generalization to one specific example clip.  You have to roll up your shirtsleeves and do the work on your circuit if you want a definitive explanation for what is going on.  Of course you can also run sims.

MileHigh

Farmhand

Yes, you see the battery voltage rise under the reduced load of the filament bulb and drop under the real load of the fluro tube. And at teh end I power a 100 Watt bulb and a large shaded pole motor the motor I power with a capacitor in series.  ;)

Well I'm not all that concerned with a definitive explanation, I shown myself with several different setups that the effect is bogus and that is good enough for me. If others do not accept my experiments as an indicator then they can do their own experiments and find their own results.

In my experience an efficient transformer has a low idle input and high efficiency at full intended load. I have no use for a system that uses a lot of power to just run at idle then it uses less when loaded.

All the time and effort I put in was to show others what I see, not for my benefit. Although I do learn as I go of course.

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synchro1


@Farmhand,

I built a very simple reed switch pulse motor with a bifilar wrap around a plastic plumber latex tape spool,
one loop for power the other for output. The magnet tube rotor spun inside the coil core. When I attached the output leads to a capacitor, the rotor accelerated. Shorting the output leads increased the effect. I couldn't explain the effect. It was very observable. Now I'm hearing it's some kind of bogus effect, after years of tests and research.


What about JLN's tests? What did he conclude? Have a look at this straight forward video and try and identify the "bogus" part:


"Here an interesting experiment about the Delayed Lenz Effect which shows that the normal Lenz effect can be reversed with a special setup":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUoyuiQTrRA&feature=player_embedded


JLN clearly demonstrates that at a distance of 1mm the shorted output coil increases input and slows the rotor. Then at a distance of 30mm the shorted coil decreases input and speeds the rotor up! Where's the bogus part in this test. Talk is cheap Farmhand!

There's seems to be some kind of persistent witch hunt pattern among members of this discussion group to placate the geo resource mind set, that's devoid of any constructive content; Just start to kick the stuffing out of any hope for free energy for the fun of it. What's up with that kind of dark age inquisition routine?


Here are JLN's observations:


How the Delayed Lenz Effect (DLE) can be observed ?

In the case of the motors/generators, the increase of the turn rate is produced by the DLE when the devices are loaded,

In the case of solid state generator or special transformers (i.e. the Thane C. Heins' Bitt) , a drop of the input power is observed when a load is connected at the output,

In the case of the generators, the increase of the turn rate is produced by the DLE when the devices are loaded above a critical minimum frequency. Below the critical minimum frequency the DLE coil will produce deceleration as per any conventional Lenz generator coil. Coil frequency dictates coil impedance which is a critical factor in producing generator DLE and on-load system acceleration.

The greater the load i.e. the closer it is to a dead short (an infinite number of resistors connected in parallel) the greater the DLE produced and the more system acceleration will be produced.

The DLE can also be used to produce an unbalance (sink effect) between the outside (i.e the Earth ground) and the load, this is the case of the Tariel Kapanadze generator...

JLN clearly shows that the motor runs more efficiently with the output coil placed at 30mm than without it, and less efficiently at 1mm, where it induces "Lenz drag". This is a very, very important observation. It's wrong to trivialize it!

Then along comes Farmhand and his Petrophile fraternity from "Salem"!

Lenz's law is not all inclusive, but needs to be amended to include the inverse corollary of "Lenz acceleration" along with the principle of "Lenz drag". This is not a bogus effect!


conradelektro

Quote from: Farmhand on January 16, 2014, 12:53:24 AM
Yes, you see the battery voltage rise under the reduced load of the filament bulb and drop under the real load of the fluro tube. And at teh end I power a 100 Watt bulb and a large shaded pole motor the motor I power with a capacitor in series.  ;)

Well I'm not all that concerned with a definitive explanation, I shown myself with several different setups that the effect is bogus and that is good enough for me. If others do not accept my experiments as an indicator then they can do their own experiments and find their own results.

In my experience an efficient transformer has a low idle input and high efficiency at full intended load. I have no use for a system that uses a lot of power to just run at idle then it uses less when loaded.

All the time and effort I put in was to show others what I see, not for my benefit. Although I do learn as I go of course.

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@Farmhand: I agree that you showed with very simple means that a "speed up effect under load", or better said "a lower power demand under certain load conditions", can be reproduced.

For me it also shows that this is nothing to get overly excited about. But you can never convince a "believer", they want to believe in magic no matter what you show them.

Greetings, Conrad