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Spinning magnets with radio waves.

Started by synchro1, April 23, 2013, 08:12:31 AM

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synchro1

I'm starting this thread with a quote from Tinselkoala:


"But I think synchro is right about his motor: first it's working as a pulse motor, then it is working as a synchronous AC motor. Call it near-field EM or RF, whatever. The thing does not have to be "responding" to every cycle of the driving wave. The rotor magnet might be rotating at the tenth "subharmonic" of the applied EM or RF and still be getting a push from it.

At the higher speeds it's rotating for the same reason that the compass is rotating in this video. The line between "pulse motor" and "synchronous AC motor" is a fine, blurry line and you can define motors on either side of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd5w8KhYrQk"

synchro1

Retrod1's spinning a magnet sphere with a vertical Pancake Coil and a sinusoidal 70 hz audio signal at low r.p.m. Coupling my spiral bedini to accelerate the magnet sphere, and switching to a full range signal generator, a higher frequency synchronus motor may be possible run by radio waves. I don't believe this has ever been accomplished before at radio frequency, Retrod1 is using a full sine wave audio signal, higher frquencies may work as well.

From Retrod1:


@"Synchro, you have a good memory. If the drive coil is observed with a scope one can see the interaction of the spinning rotor (magnet) field with the drive coil field. I believe this is what is causing the current decrease in Lidmotor's latest video. Using a pure sine wave on the drive coil makes this easier to observe ".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTvEi_XuaL0&list=UUlgIDBiaYdtIk1O1AvqjK5Q&index=3

Transmitting a broadcast spin signal from a distance could delivery "Spin Energy" as a power company, coupled with Lenz free SBSC (Serial Bifilar Spiral Coil) output coils. Everyone could have magnet spheres spinning around on the roof. ! All they would need is starter coils and circuits to generate power at home from a radio broadcast signal.

The SBSC presents one pole in the center and this accounts for both it's power and low "Lenz Profile". This combination would serve as an accelerator and "Lenz free" output coil. A "Wireless Grid" may be possible to attain this way.

synchro1

Here's an equation from Pirate Twinbeard.; He's spininng a 1/8" magnet at 57.5 khz.

                                                 This magnet's r.p.m is on the F.M. subcarrier wavelength!

Lets do the math...
speed of sound = 1125'/second.
circumference of .125" sphere = D * Pi = .3925"
distance of travel per second of a point on the surface in inches at 57,500Hz =
.3925" * 57500Hz = 22568.75"/sec
twelve inches per foot:
22568.75"/sec / 12 = 1880.7292'/sec
Mach = '/sec divided by 1125.
That would make Mach 1.6718 as the velocity of any given point on the rotational plane of the sphere.

I can reach radio bandwidth r.p.m's with my 1/2" spiral bedini sphere. I believe I can sustain the high speed rotation, broadcasting a
corresponding sinusoidal signal at it from a "Pancake Antenna" like retrod1's. If I turn the input down all the way on the self loop version, the battery would begin to charge. Driven by a seperate sine wave, that much "Lenz Free" output would be assured. The SBSC can both race up the Sphere, and pickup for free.

What would the social and political ramifications of a positive test validation be like? The spectre of "Wireless Grid"!

The best outcome would be for each unit to supply it's own transmitter. The tune in power with frequency potential is the key to limitless power!

Below is a compact 9 volt F.M. one transister radio broadcast transmitter. Something like this can accompany any first stage pulse power circuit. The Spiral power coil would conviently double as a brodcast antenna for the radio trasmission. All that's needed is a DPDT switch to go from power pulse to sine wace synchronous..

retrod

If I only knew now what I knew then. Spinning a powerful magnet is easy and efficient. Converting the rotating magnets field to useful work is the interesting part. You are on the right track with the "radio motor". The rotating magnet energy should be converted to a Barkhausen oscillation. This should be Lenz free. See you at the flying car races!

Retrod1

TinselKoala

QuoteHere's an equation from Pirate Twinbeard.; He's spininng a 1/8" magnet at 57.5 khz.

                                                 This magnet's r.p.m is on the F.M. wavelength!

Lets do the math...
speed of sound = 1125'/second.
circumference of .125" sphere = D * Pi = .3925"
distance of travel per second of a point on the surface in inches at 57,500Hz =
.3925" * 57500Hz = 22568.75"/sec
twelve inches per foot:
22568.75"/sec / 12 = 1880.7292'/sec
Mach = '/sec divided by 1125.
That would make Mach 1.6718 as the velocity of any given point on the rotational plane of the sphere.

Yes..... let's "do the math" indeed, but first let's do a reality check.

57 kHz is hardly "FM frequency". In fact 57 kHz is barely out of the Audio range (which, for the purposes of high-fidelity reproduction, goes up to 40 kHz, or about twice the range of the young human ear.) If you want to consider it RF, then it's rather the Extremely Low Frequency band.
Standard AM broadcast frequencies start at 550 kHz.... roughly ten times what's stated above, and FM broadcast band starts at around 85 _MegaHertz_ or over a thousand times higher in frequency. I'd love to see someone rotate a magnet at over a thousand times the speed of sound.

Further, is there actual evidence that the magnet is really rotating even that fast? Or is it just observed to rotate rapidly, and since the drive is at 57 kHz.... the rotation rate is assumed to be synchronous?