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Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater

Started by gmeast, April 25, 2013, 11:43:17 PM

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TinselKoala

Ainslie is promising another of her famous demonstrations of incompetence on June 1.  But she is already snivelling about what is to be shown. She's not going to be showing what she promised to show LAST APRIL and failed to do so, for instance. Maybe you can figure out what she intends to try to demonstrate. I can hardly wait.

Of course, based on her past record, the chances of there actually being anything demonstrated on June 1st is very small. After all, she has told us how she is constantly being hacked, her computers stolen, and other sabotage perpetrated against her. What will she blame her next failure-to-deliver on? Is MrSean2K really vacationing in South Africa this month? Are her lawyers prepared to meet with Bryan Little to discuss a settlement for all the slanders and libels against him she's committed? The world is watching carefully.

And I am laughing so hard I can hardly see the screen.

gmeast

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 11, 2013, 04:40:26 AM
Ainslie is promising another of her famous demonstrations of incompetence on June 1.  But she is already snivelling about what is to be shown. She's not going to be showing what she promised to show LAST APRIL and failed to do so, for instance. Maybe you can figure out what she intends to try to demonstrate. I can hardly wait.

Of course, based on her past record, the chances of there actually being anything demonstrated on June 1st is very small. After all, she has told us how she is constantly being hacked, her computers stolen, and other sabotage perpetrated against her. What will she blame her next failure-to-deliver on? Is MrSean2K really vacationing in South Africa this month? Are her lawyers prepared to meet with Bryan Little to discuss a settlement for all the slanders and libels against him she's committed? The world is watching carefully.

And I am laughing so hard I can hardly see the screen.


TK,


You do persists. You should read some of the comments in threads on respectable energy sites. They are all about you. Free energy has been here all along in the form of your blubbering. If only we could harness the abundance of energy flowing from that trap of yours, the would would finally be at peace. I've already contacted Stefan. When he returns from vacation, he'll see that YOU, once again, turned a thread meant to share results of research into a forum to promote your own malicious bullshit. He locked one of your threads and now he'll lock this one. It's that p-nis problem I guess.


Regards





poynt99

The main problem with Rosemary's (and gmeast's) test protocols, is they assume that a battery's A-h rating is constant and linear, independent of time or current during discharge.

Take a 100 A-h battery for instance. The A-h rating on a battery is usually given at a 20 hour discharge to 10V. At this rate of discharge the battery will output roughly 5A of current. 5 x 20 = 100; all seems good.

Now, decrease the discharge time to 2 hours; would we expect the battery to supply 50A for the duration? In practice, the battery would deliver about 40A, and therefore the actual A-h rating at the 2 hour discharge is 80 A-h.

Go to the extreme and decrease the discharge time to 2 minutes. In practice the battery would deliver about 680A for an actual A-h rating of 22 A-h.

So it's quite evident that we can't linearly extrapolate the A-h rating when changing from one discharge current to another. So what are the implications?

If we are to properly compare the A-h rating and capacity of a battery, the battery needs to be discharged at the same average current for all cases. One battery rating called "Reserve Capacity" is tested by measuring the length of time the battery can deliver 25A (starting current) until it discharges to 10V.

References:
http://www.dcbattery.com/faq.html
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_11/3.html
http://www.answers.com/topic/amp-hour-ratings
http://overlandresource.com/what-is-an-amp-hour-and-how-to-calculate-battery-capacity
http://www.odysseybattery.com/documents/US-ODY-TM-001_0411_000.pdf


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How Are Amp Hours Determined? Battery manufacturers complete tests on their batteries to give them an Amp-Hour rating. A typical time period for a test is 20 hours, but it varies - batteries are tested over different periods, such as 24 hours, 75 hours, even 100 hours.  But as you'll see below, a 100 Amp-hour battery tested over a 100 hour period (i.e. 1 amp drawn for 100 hours) will not have the same capacity as a 100 Amp-hour battery tested over a 20 hour period (i.e. 5 amps drawn for 20 hours). It turns out that if you drew 1 amp continuously from the 20 hour test battery, it would last for 110-120% longer than on the 100 hour test battery.
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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TinselKoala

Quote from: gmeast on May 11, 2013, 08:43:13 AM

TK,


You do persists. You should read some of the comments in threads on respectable energy sites. They are all about you. Free energy has been here all along in the form of your blubbering. If only we could harness the abundance of energy flowing from that trap of yours, the would would finally be at peace. I've already contacted Stefan. When he returns from vacation, he'll see that YOU, once again, turned a thread meant to share results of research into a forum to promote your own malicious bullshit. He locked one of your threads and now he'll lock this one. It's that p-nis problem I guess.


Regards

Preserved for posterity.
You are the blubbering one, Gmeast. You can whine and insult all you like, but the record is clear: You cannot refute anything that .99, Picowatt, or I have said. You started two threads whose only purpose was to insult and mock me, nothing to do with any topic on this forum at all, in clear violation of this site's TOS and in violation of civil behaviour. You are a troll.
You have used and continue to use foul language like a ten year old child. You cannot even discuss things rationally with Picowatt, who has never said a harsh word to anyone.
Anyone who reads the thread you are talking about -- this thread -- can see for themselves that I DIDN'T EVEN POST IN IT until after you started with your insults and disrespect of your betters, specifically PicoWatt. So you are lying again when you blame your difficulties on me.

Your famous "FUCK THEM ALL DEAD" quotation will go down in history as typical argumentation from you and your ilk. Some people might even interpret that as a physical threat. I just find it very childish and insulting. Nobody here has spoken to you like that, except in direct response to your own foulness.

Your whining to Stefan is also typical. You've said many times that you don't care about this forum, that you aren't going to post here any more, and then you start up your threads just to insult and denigrate those who know their topic far better than you do. What was the last thread that was locked that I posted in? It was the Wayne Travis thread, and he asked for that thread to be locked because he could not answer the points I and others raised .... and he STILL cannot show what he claimed to have two years ago. And the thread before that was the Tar Baby thread.... my own thread, the only one that I've started here.... locked because Ainslie deliberately flamed and lied and even threatened Stefan with her lawyers. I keep the pressure on, and claimants who cannot support their claims with facts wind up whining, pleading with the site owner (even after insulting him over and over.... ) and flaming me whenever they can, just like you do.

Stefan might not have time or patience to review all the facts. And you distort them as you see fit, and avoid the truth like it would melt you. But I know this much: YOU, Gmeast, have contributed nothing to this site, you've never helped anyone, and you have been incredibly and increasingly insulting and foul-mouthed. You've insulted Stefan, complained about his administration, and you even use other forums to insult this site and its members. Why would anyone want you around? You don't even understand your own topic.

poynt99

In case the message wasn't clear, allow me to spell it out a bit:

As the data shows, outlasting the rated 20 hour discharge figure of a battery is NOT proof that the circuit it is powering is OU or applying charge back to the battery.

The same goes for an apparent negative input power measurement. That one is easy to achieve, even in a simulation as I have done.

The only way Rosemary and gmeast will ever prove to anyone that their circuits are operating in some extraordinary mode, is to either perform proper power measurements, which they have not done, loop their devices and remove the power source, or demonstrate that the power source will outlast its amp-hour rating, based on the drawn operating current, also not yet done.

For the latter, the circuit would have to be run for at least 200 hours continuously (assuming a 100 A-h battery), based on a 1 ampere or so current draw typical of Rosemary's circuit. If the battery has significantly declined in open circuit voltage at the end of the run, then obviously there was no recharge occurring.

The so-called "control" is not even required if these tests are performed properly.
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

Simple Cheap Low Power Oscillators V2.0
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=248
Towards Realizing the TPU V1.4: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=217
Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments V1.0: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209