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Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater

Started by gmeast, April 25, 2013, 11:43:17 PM

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picowatt

Quote from: poynt99 on May 13, 2013, 08:24:36 PM
My impression is that Rosemary is aiming to show that for the same heat rise on the load resistor, the DUT battery will outlast the control experiment battery, using the 10V mark as the cutoff.

She also appears to be claiming that the amp-hour (although she incorrectly states watt-hour) rating of the battery will be exceeded when used in the DUT.

.99,

I assume you mean to take each 12V nominal battery down to 10V.  10V is a bit low to take a 12V battery down to.  As well, I thought I read she was going to do all this in 17 hours.  She must be using a new circuit, I thought the batteries stayed up for months upon months with the original circuit.

So how does demonstrating that a battery can have different capacities with different load profiles provide proof of OU?  Would you not agree that the energy required to charge the battery would have to be consistently exceeded in order to claim OU?

PW

poynt99

Quote from: picowatt on May 13, 2013, 09:14:02 PM
.99,

I assume you mean to take each 12V nominal battery down to 10V.
Yes.

Quote10V is a bit low to take a 12V battery down to.
Agreed, but they do this very thing for generating extended discharge characteristic curves as per the 5th link I provided and the snapshot showing the A-h ratings vs. discharge currents.
QuoteThe following twenty graphs show detailed discharge characteristics of the entire ODYSSEY battery line. The end of discharge
voltage in each case is 10.02V per battery or 1.67 volts per cell (VPC). Each graph shows both constant current (CC)
and constant power (CP) discharge curves at 25ºC (77ºF). The table next to each graph shows the corresponding energy
and power densities. The battery run times extend from 2 minutes to 20 hours.

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As well, I thought I read she was going to do all this in 17 hours.  She must be using a new circuit, I thought the batteries stayed up for months upon months with the original circuit.
Probably not a new circuit per se, but most likely a set of much smaller capacity batteries (as we recommended years ago).

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So how does demonstrating that a battery can have different capacities with different load profiles provide proof of OU?
Rhetorical question I know, but it doesn't. That was the purpose of my post.

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Would you not agree that the energy required to charge the battery would have to be consistently exceeded in order to claim OU?
Of course, but that would require work...and know-how. At the present, even a proper Pin and Pout measurement is asking too much.
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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TinselKoala

It's completely futile to expect anything reasonable or rational from her. Just take a look at her latest. It's clear that she learned absolutely  nothing from the months of discussion with .99. She still cannot fathom the linear operation mode of a mosfet, she still thinks the battery is "disconnected" during the oscillations, she still has no clue about her circuit's operation or how a mosfet works.
"Take water to boil". What a fool. She cannot use her circuit, as described in her "paper" and shown in the second part of her last demo, with 72 volts input, to "take water to boil"  as she has claimed.  She cannot reproduce the problematic scopeshots we have noted with the circuit she published and intact mosfets. She can, however, reproduce those scopeshots easily enough.... simply by running her system as shown in the second half of the demo, trying to boil water, but with the full 72 volts input instead of the mere 48 she was forced to use then. Because this will blow the Q1 mosfet in short order... and then the scopeshots will look like what she published.
If she shows anything at all on June 1 -- which I sincerely doubt -- it will be even more of a farce than her last "demo".

gmeast

Quote from: poynt99 on May 13, 2013, 08:24:36 PM
My impression is that Rosemary is aiming to show that for the same heat rise on the load resistor, the DUT battery will outlast the control experiment battery, using the 10V mark as the cutoff.

She also appears to be claiming that the amp-hour (although she incorrectly states watt-hour) rating of the battery will be exceeded when used in the DUT.


I want everyone to remember just what kind of highjacking assholes this gang of 3 really are. I started a thread about MY research of a variant of the Inductive Resistor Heater. I started that thread so I could share MY research. But what happened instead? This gang of 3 ... being TinselKoala, picowatt and poynt99, used MY thread to criticize Rosemary Ainslie's work. They opitomize a gang of 5th-grade bullies. What's amazing is Stefan Hartmann ... this forum's owner, seems to think that's OK to do.


This didn't happen just once ... it happended twice. I'm just going to keep reminding everyone of this gang's behavior as often as I can.


These three are self-proclaimed experts on just about everything ... and that's all they are ... remember that.


Please just  view my video slide show and decide for yourself. Not one of this gang of 3 ever made a valid challenge of my work other than to try and demean me by saying "... it's not work at all ... ". That was a quote from the all-knowing TK aka TinselKoala.


My video Slide Show here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q473lX-Zw1w


Thank you

TinselKoala

QuotePlease just  view my video slide show and decide for yourself. Not one of this gang of 3 ever made a valid challenge of my work other than to try and demean me by saying "... it's not work at all ... ". That was a quote from the all-knowing TK aka TinselKoala.

Resurrect a thread that has been dead since mid May, just to troll and stalk? And to complain about the site owner? Amazing, but true to form.

Prove it by giving a link to where I said "it's not work at all".

Meanwhile, I can prove that YOU say some pretty wild things, GMeast.

You want me to stay out of "your" threads, fine .... then don't mention me at all, especially not with one of your baseless distortions.

And, in case you haven't noticed.... I'm not melting down at all. In fact, it's rather the other way around, isn't it. You and your patron saint have fallen out, she produced the most hum-dinger of a "demonstration" imaginable where she soundly refuted herself much better than I ever could do.... and everything I ever said about her circuit is now known to be true. And the demo has given me even more material to illustrate just how wrong Ainslie and Donovan Martin really are, and how mendacious and devious they are. You can hear Ainslie melting down live on cellphone, just by clicking a few links, and you can see her own disproofs of her claims, in spite of her trying to withhold the screen images, on "my" thread having to do with her June 29 demo. Yet I am perfectly calm.... and perfectly correct.
That infuriates you, doesn't it. And it makes me LOL.