Big try at gravity wheel

[mrwayne]

John,

There is not "A" design or configuration that makes the magic.

I got what Wayne said in the first go round on this topic, but most missed it, I have brought it up again in this thread and still most ignore it, and right now MarkE is so close that when he does see it,, well that is how I felt when I finally got at least a small part of it.

The first hurdle to get over is the recovery, anybody remember me saying that?? and yet no one has tried to get into that at all.

MarkE, do you know why you can NOT compare a ZED to a single piston? because you *can* get recovery from a ZED and NOT from a single piston.

The build I was walking through will get you there, I found it easier to use 2 devices within each unit and then "sacrifice" some performance from one to have the other as free,, it was just easier to see and to accept.

There is no difference between the system I am walking through if the weight is on the cylinder or not, the weight is an added extra.

Buoyancy has its force trapped within the water column, that is the water supplies the motive force at the cost of setting it up,, but once you have that buoyant lift you have no more cost, then when you are done with using it you can recover your input.

If you had a hydraulic ram, you ran the pump and moved the ram 5 inches, when you stop how much of anything is left??  what if you could conserve 10 percent of the internal forces that YOU put into the system, what if you took that and added it to your next stroke, that would reduce your stroke input by 10%,,what if to set this up it cost you 5%,, so now your ram is only supplying 95% of the output but you are only supplying 90% of the input.

If you can view it this way you will notice that nothing new is being created, you have supplied all of the force to start with and that force is only being conserved and recycled.

Congratulations Webby,

It is hard to see, I know that the ZED system is counter intuitive -

I am Impressed that Mark tried to follow - and I do believe he will get it eventually.

I am also Impressed that you stuck it out and explained.

No doubt your explanation will be followed by pages of confusion by others - which is the case for 240 pages.

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To all - the point Webby just made - is the mystery behind our system.

It is also why our Zydro Energy group has been quietly building our company.

For all those following - Contrary to the "false facts"

We are not seeking any investments - We are fully Funded.

We have been granted Patents in some countries - all others are under examination.

The Tom Miller Video's did an excellent job of showing the inception to our future technology - they were meant to help you see what Webby just described - not over unity.

And yes - TK a single ZED can be OU - if you simple store the recycled energy and return it on the next stroke, as I said two yeas ago - which you omitted every time you miss applied the context. As I said before - why add the extra effort and time - simply transfer between systems. Get over it - you missed it.

On another note - my contact information has never changed - to  those that have tried to discredit me and our company all this time - those people never made one call or asked me one single question about their claims against us. Shame on all of you who slander by assumption.

If you realize you were wrong - I already forgave you - if not time heals - good luck to you.

p.s. I never tell people what to say or think - not Tom, Webby, Mark, Mike, or even those that are childish.

To the rest of the world:

Our Physics are simple and pure - obviously hard for some to see, but no matter;

THE BEST NEWS - The world will receive access to pure clean and reliable energy - as always - as we have been for four years - we are open to visitors.

We are blessed to be able to do this right.

Peace to all of you.

Wayne Travis

[MarkE]

Mr. Wayne, if by "got it" you mean I understand the falsity of your claims, I "got it" two years ago when Tom Miller posted his five misdirection videos.  There is no mystery.  Contrary to Tom Miller's claims in those videos, the quantity of air is irrelevant to the buoyant lift of anything submerged in water.  If you do not understand that then you do not understand either the St. Francis or Malpasset dam failures.  In both cases the buoyant force of displaced water lifted and destroyed great dams.  If you do understand Archimedes' Principle, then you have been telling deliberate lies all this time.

There is no and never has been any demonstrable "Travis effect".  There is no energy gain to be had by building machines that lift and drop masses, be they fluids, solids, and/or gasses or some combination.  You and HER can continue to make the extraordinary and false claims to energy gains that you have all that you like.  The burden of evidence is on those who make the extraordinary claims.  You, HER, and HER's supporters have completely failed to ever support your extraordinary claims.   The reason is that you cannot, because your claims have always been false.

If you are going to introduce the issue of funding:  Have any and all investors who have sought return of their funds received them?

It would be nice if the small investors who have been burned by your failure to deliver on your grandiose promises don't suffer badly for having placed faith in your knowingly false words.

In my book:  "Doing it right." does not mean soliciting investment in knowingly false claims and promises that can never be delivered.

[TinselKoala]

There you have it: another clear statement by Wayne Travis that a SINGLE ZED is or "can be" OVERUNITY -- with no evidence provided AT ALL for this outrageous and insulting claim.

Come on, Travis. You have been crowing the same noise for years... and you have NEVER YET produced any evidence of your claims. You have demonstrated huge complicated kludgy devices to bamboozle the audiences, but you have never shown anything that "runs itself" and which produces excess energy.

Fully funded? So you found someone to buy out your early, dissatisfied investors, you prevailed in your lawsuit, and you'll be putting a 50 kW generating plant at your church "soon" ...... you make me laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKctCl_pr7A


Now, I want to hear some explanation for why WEBBY, who you claim understands the system so well... .why hasn't WEBBY built anything that runs itself, or that clearly provides more WORK out than in, and recycles back to the same starting state... without extra input of work? Answer me that, Wayne Travis, whose "physics" is simple and pure. I know why... and so do you.

[MarkE]

TinselKoala that video is flagged as private.

[powercat]

I have a product to develop - company to run - I won't be back.
Mr Wayne

Look who's back, and contradicting himself like most liars.

[/font]Congratulations Webby,To all - the point Webby just made - is the mystery behind our system.Wayne Travis

Your system to pay Webby $2000 has only convinced Webby.
And your stooge is so convinced that he had his device verified and produced a self running model,.... oh no,,, [size=78%]strange how he hasn't done any of that, considering he made one of the most remarkable discoveries in history[/size]

[/font]Our Physics are simple and pure - obviously hard for some to see, but no matter;Wayne Travis

You're not kidding "hard for some to see" what happened to Mark Dansie visit ? ?  He's finding it impossible to see, and if you're physics are so simple why can't anyone else produce over-unity.


Wayne Travis you are a conman, a diluted one at best,
If anyone thinks I'm being over the top, this is the man that promised verification on numerous occasions and broke his word, this is the man that can't produce a continuous live streamed video showing his device continuously running, this is the man that paid a member of this forum $2000, strange how that person is the only one believing in the traverse affect. 


No doubt Wayne and Red will have numerous excuses why no verification has been done and no proof of actual continuous working device has ever been shown, I put it to anyone with the slightest intelligence that the reason none of these things have happened is that there is no working device and never has been, and from my experience over many years on this forum Wayne Travis fits the profile of a conman = [size=78%]Somebody who is incapable of delivering what they claim.