Big try at gravity wheel

[Grimer]

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Look at the Catholic church, they change the divine laws from time to time.
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No they don't.


The central core of beliefs and morals has never and will never be changed.


The dogma of the Immaculate Conception and Assumption, for example, which been solemnly confirmed  by the pope using his power of infallibility will never be changed.


The murder of unborn children has never been allowed and will never be allowed.


For an obviously intelligent and educated man your ignorance on these matters is astonishing. Why, even Setalokin knows better than that.

[Grimer]

September 2013 - machine complete:
19/10/2013 - Foto Oficial nº 52 - Final da terceira de três etapas
http://www.rarenergia.com.br/

January 2014 - still no video of it running... Why not??? 

Why don't you ask them - or do some research. I think they have given a reason somewhere.

[Marsing]

When might soon be?  Bessler made his claims 300 years ago.  Since then no experiment has reproduced his perpetual motion claims.  John Collins is among those who have tried and failed.  Gravity stubbornly continues to demonstrate that it is a conservative field.

and then from last 300 years , someone have proved that energy/power can be extracted from gravity.
and probably now thousand have made replica/modification for their own,
there were many others that works,

BIG QUESTION , KEEP  ANSWERS FOR YOUR SELF
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1. how can I ensure that John Collins has really failed ?
2. was I with him when device being tested ?
3. did I do experiment by Myself?
4. did John Collins know everything?
5. AM I only copy others post or wiki or other sources AND blindly accept that?
6. will my heroes give credit to me with supporting their posts?
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... space for my next QS
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i was also skeptic, skeptic protect us from scam fraud etc..
till i found 99% gravity device do work, ( with simple math).
best word to say, it's EASY

the conservative field theory as a reason to deny existence of these will be obsolete, next you ( all of "conservative field"  MAN) will realize that "conservative field" is not the only one to judge,   
   
sorry for my words, and peace for all

marsing

[Red_Sunset]

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The central core of beliefs and morals has never and will never be changed.
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Hi Grimer & all
I agree, that would take a revolution in its true'st sense.

I do not want to sound like a stuck record, if I may add the following text,  to be seen within the context of purpose for this forum.
The essence of my initial communication was, that I am of the opinion that in order to succeed in discovering the "free energy, as a  hook into the wheelwork of the universe (as Tesla said)", we need to be able to think and reason "uninhibited".  That is a taller order than you might think !.

Uninhibited does not mean to disregard known knowledge or start from square one.
It should mean to be open to new ideas and able to think and reason without being limited, the best equivalent is "discover like a child".
That doesn't mean that there a no limitation to what can be done, neither to ignore all physics theories and facts.  Just do not allow yourself to be limited by them,  do not allow existing laws to pre-empt or override logical reasoning. (I know, easier said than done)

For example, most people have already written off the RAR as unworkable,  that it is unworkable might be true. To know this you need to know how it possibly can work.  It is ok for anybody to say so, so long such a statement is supported by good logical analysis.
The best I have seen is thus far is MrVibrating with a SIM analysis.  Al the others are just purely speculation and guesswork work. That is no problem, but it should be recognized as such, an opinion not a fact.

We discover by perception >> perception forms an opinion by limited repeat observation >> confirmation with repeatable verification of an opinion turn it into fact >>  persistent confirmation of fact >> turns it into Law (~=truth).

Most of what I have seen here in "overunity.com" is the initial stage of perception leading towards fact confirmation, but with a great failure rate.
The result is that a lot of hard work gets trashed,  which makes many member apathetic to investing further new efforts. This leads to mainly "fast opinions" being tabled.  (although they are desired to be facts).

Some interesting revelations are still pending on this RAR. I do not like to post incomplete summaries

PS:  Some good words from Marsing, he makes a good point, 
Visualize, if YOU would have discovered the key to the holy grail, why would you post it here to be shot down.  At that juncture, you would have your hands full with much more important priorities.
Never under-estimate the dynamics of human motivation, (first tends to be always ...me first)

My 3 cents,  Red_Sunset

[MarkE]

and then from last 300 years , someone have proved that energy/power can be extracted from gravity.
and probably now thousand have made replica/modification for their own,
there were many others that works,

BIG QUESTION , KEEP  ANSWERS FOR YOUR SELF
-----------------------------------------------------
1. how can I ensure that John Collins has really failed ?
2. was I with him when device being tested ?
3. did I do experiment by Myself?
4. did John Collins know everything?
5. AM I only copy others post or wiki or other sources AND blindly accept that?
6. will my heroes give credit to me with supporting their posts?
...
... space for my next QS
... 
...
?.
-----------------------------------------------------

i was also skeptic, skeptic protect us from scam fraud etc..
till i found 99% gravity device do work, ( with simple math).
best word to say, it's EASY

the conservative field theory as a reason to deny existence of these will be obsolete, next you ( all of "conservative field"  MAN) will realize that "conservative field" is not the only one to judge,   
   
sorry for my words, and peace for all

marsing

Marsing could you please point out a working machine that today is powered by gravity in the same sense as Johann Bessler claimed for his various wheels?