Big try at gravity wheel

[Red_Sunset]

Hi Sunset,
            Archimedes gives us the answer!
                                         John.
   I could mark my finger and cut it off at the level and weigh it? 

Hi John,
Don't cut it, because the weight wouldn't match,
rather fill a condom with water, that one would match the scale difference.
Red_Sunset

[conradelektro]

I need to agree that a "proof of concept" mini system would go a long way to make a statement (even it it did light only a Christmas tree last Dec).

After tons of double talk, con talk and meaningless insinuations we finally hear a useful statement from Red_Sunset.

There is a simple way to detect a run around: the con man never does the obvious. And the con man needs thousands of words to talk around the obvious and always avoids the straight forward thing to do.

But the con man is right, only by withholding everything tangible, everything concrete, people can be played along for years, as we see in this thread happening again, and again, and again.

Greetings, Conrad

[MarkE]

I guess if you call being given information in an open thread "the run around",, then there were many right along with me who got it.

An interesting thing about a "float" is that it does not care how far it moves in gravity,, it is like it does not see gravity.  Well that is unless I am gong to be told that a fixed dimension float has more "float" the deeper it is under water or something.

Webby1, without outside help, and ignoring surface tension, the main forces on a "float" are gravitational:  The downward gravitational acceleration equal to the weight of the "float" towards the center of the earth, and an upward force equal the weight of the water that the "float" displaces away from the center of the earth.   From the bottom to the top of a 10m high tank on earth's surface the change in each force is less than 2ppm.

The work exerted or released changing the depth of a float is just the integral over the distance moved of the net force at each point in the path.  For something that has an average SG < 1 it takes work to increase the submerged depth and work is released going back up.  For SG > 1 net work is released going down and work has to be performed coming back up.  Ignoring losses to things like surface tension and heating / cooling of any gas volumes that get compressed or expanded, the work magnitude in each direction is identical.  The work balance does not change just because of the path taken or due to changes in the volume of the "float".

[Red_Sunset]

......................................, people can be played along for years, as we see in this thread happening again, and again, and again.
Greetings, Conrad 

Conrad,
The world is never just black & white
Always try to see it in a bigger context.
Wayne didn't come to this forum to give away his invention, I believe he was still looking for a missing piece in his puzzle.
Nobody is gonna dish-up a golden nugget here.
Maybe you could pick-up something and turn it into a golden nugget.
That is the opportunity.
That people can be played is just as much fault of the people as it is of the player
Red_Sunset

[MarkE]

Red_Sunset, the missing piece is unfortunately the free power source that Wayne Travis promised and continues to promise.  The ZED is an energy storage device.  It is not an energy creation device.  The only energy that can be extracted from a ZED is the energy put into it in the first place loading and charging it.  Try as they might for years, HER have not been able break even, much less deliver a surplus.