Big try at gravity wheel

[Red_Sunset]

By invitation I take it you mean travelling to Wayne's premises to see his device, Wayne already has somebody capable of this task (Mark Dansie) but as we all know Wayne is scared of verification and has lied and broken his promises on numerous occasions over the last two years.

If Mark Dansie can't get access to verify Wayne's device why would you think of suggesting I should go ?

I have been telling myself already for quite a while to give up on this forum, and I should.
I think what is keeping me is the entertainment value.

PowerCat,
In which post did you get an invitation to travel to Wayne's  premises. >>  in none!  so why imagine that ?.
You guys are like loose cannons, your comments are seldom relevant to the discussion at hand.

There was a post that said the following as your invitation to participate,

Gravity powered devices / Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« on: February 03, 2014, 09:52:55 AM »
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So in order to proceed, I need the acknowledgement of all skeptic members listed below, for all line items shown.
A "yes" or "no" or "don't know" or "impossible" or "maybe" are all valid answers.
We have 6 days remaining because by that time I will be at the bottom of Africa with only intermittent internet access

Mandatory detailed response needed from
1., MarkE   
2.. TinselKoala   
3..  Mile High
4..  PowerCat
5..  EnergiaLibre
6..  Fletcher
and anybody who wants to participate is welcome to do so.
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Red_Sunset

[Marsing]

hi all

it's coffe time..   any news about RAR?   

[powercat]

PowerCat,
In which post did you get an invitation to travel to Wayne's  premises. >>  in none!  so why imagine that ?.

Red_Sunset

[/font]Hi Cat,Some advice, get yourself better informed, so you can see the wood from the tree'sTake a trip to Oklahoma and visit the ZED production line.

No doubt you will twist the meaning of what you said, that is a predictable thing that you do, I repeatedly have shown you to be contradictory, aggressive, and repetitive.

As for your second invitation I refer you to the yellow sign in my previous post
You really need to get it into your deluded mind that it is you that has to produce evidence, the members of this forum are not accountable to your delusions of grandeur.

[minnie]

    Hi,
        I'm really impressed with Webby, he really is giving this his best shot.
  As for Sunset I think about the best adjective to use is pathetic.
                              John.

[MarkE]

It is right after the post from Wayne.

The cavity and bubble have to be filled by then,, there is not enough space in the starting condition to hold it all.

When I go through this I use a connecting tube of some sort to dump the "air" from state 2 back into the starting condition.

External work would just be extracting something from the change in height from the starting condition up to state 2, whether that is by weight or external resistance does not matter so much, it ends up being the same energy.

Are you OK with a vent in the top of the inverted cylinder?  We could have that feed back to a reservoir on the surface that the pump uses as its source of "air".

The external work statement needs refinement.  Lifting and dropping a weight would not do any net work.  Would you like to propose something whereby a weight on top of the cylinder is removed at the end of state 2, and a new one is placed on top of the cylinder at the end of the starting condition?  That would be fine by me.  Pick an SG and value for the weight.  One such weight would have an SG of 1.0:  It would be the water that we raise going from the starting condition to State 2.  One could place a series of valves along the side of the container so that water above a certain height will drain off.  We can count the work performed as the water weight times the fall height from the particular valve.