Big try at gravity wheel

[Grimer]

Frank, have you gone off your meds again?

Mark E. has been asking you to support your claims, nothing more. It would be very useful if you did that.

YOU are the one making "useless posts", claims without evidence, and ad-hominem abusive attacks. You are the one bringing in extraneous and irrelevant material. You are the one who cannot defend his arguments with actual facts and checkable outside references.

You can't help insulting people can you. I think you do it without realising it.


As you said in one of your posts. Taunting Rosemary is a sport.


Let's hope she never brings a libel action against you in London.
Your anonymity won't protect you as you probably realise.


It seems rather unfair that she can libel Al but Al can't libel her. But that's the price of secrecy.

[MarkE]

Mark,


Let me explain something to you.


In the British Scientific Civil Service there are three grades of officer.


Scientific officers whose job it is to dream up new areas of research.


Experimental Officers whose job is to device experiments on those ideas
and carry them out.


Scientific Assistants who help the experimental officers with the donkey work and make the tea.


The rest of the service has a similar hierarchical division of Admin, Exec, and Clerical.


I don't do experiments, that's not my job. I don't devise them. I don't carry them out. And I would be absolutely useless if I did.


Like the centurion in the gospel I say to my E.O. go here and he goes, do this and he does it.


None of the experiments in my published papers were carried out by me. Design and implementation of equipment and procedures were undertaken by my E.O.s. They wouldn't let me touch anything in case I broke it.


So if you want to design and carry out an experiment based on my graph then be my guest. The idea is where my job begins and ends.

Grimer, OK, you don't do experiment design.  Let's move beyond that. 

In order to design an experiment we first have to define what it is that the experiment is going to test.  Gravity has been shown to behave conservatively in many tests under a broad range of conditions.  Repeating tests under any of those conditions would by all probability simply repeat the apparently conservative behavior.  If there is an exception to conservation with respect to gravity, that exception occurs under limiting circumstances outside what has been tested before.  What I need to know from you is what limitations you believe are sufficient.  Once you state those limitations, then anyone here, including me can think about how to devise a test that will impose those limitations in an accessible and repeatable experiment.  If the verified results of such tests show non-conservative behavior beyond the error bars, then the presently held view that gravity is a conservative field will be falsified by such an experiment.  If they fail to falsify then the required limitations may have to be expanded.

So, let's get started:  Please state limiting circumstances under which according to your ideas a gravitational field is non-conservative. 

[TinselKoala]

You can't help insulting people can you. I think you do it without realising it.


As you said in one of your posts. Taunting Rosemary is a sport.


Let's hope she never brings a libel action against you in London.
Your anonymity won't protect you as you probably realise.


It seems rather unfair that she can libel Al but Al can't libel her. But that's the price of secrecy.

Frank, I can prove the truth of everything I've ever said about Ainslie. She is ignorant, arrogant, undereducated, a liar and a fool, paranoid and delusional, and she has threatened me several times. I have evidence for every allegation I've ever made concerning her. She, however, has accused me of crimes, she's made homophobic slurs against me, she has called and emailed other people seeking to malign me and destroy my reputation in their eyes. Needless to say, she has no evidence for any of her crazy allegations.  For a long time she believed that I was someone named Bryan Little, and she emitted many many slurs and libels against him, whoever he might be. Were she here in Texas rather than being in some unreachable backwater third world hellhole, I would sue her back to abject poverty for the things she has said and done against me.

Now.. shall we examine your last few posts for the insults you have emitted towards people like Mark E and myself?

Please give us a link to where I said "Taunting Rosemary is a sport". If you think criticising her "work" and her ridiculous claims with factual demonstrations is "taunting", then you have a different OED than I do.

[Grimer]

Frank, I can prove the truth of everything I've ever said about Ainslie. She is ignorant, arrogant, undereducated, a liar and a fool, paranoid and delusional, and she has threatened me several times. I have evidence for every allegation I've ever made concerning her. She, however, has accused me of crimes, she's made homophobic slurs against me, she has called and emailed other people seeking to malign me and destroy my reputation in their eyes. Needless to say, she has no evidence for any of her crazy allegations.  For a long time she believed that I was someone named Bryan Little, and she emitted many many slurs and libels against him, whoever he might be. Were she here in Texas rather than being in some unreachable backwater third world hellhole, I would sue her back to abject poverty for the things she has said and done against me.

Now.. shall we examine your last few posts for the insults you have emitted towards people like Mark E and myself?

Please give us a link to where I said "Taunting Rosemary is a sport". If you think criticising her "work" and her ridiculous claims with factual demonstrations is "taunting", then you have a different OED than I do.

I would gladly leave her to her peace... but she refuses to cease and desist with her insults and libels against me (and you, and Sterling, and Stefan, and .99, and just about everyone else who has ever criticized her). And she's got a couple of sock-puppet sycophants who parrot her insults and add their own filth to the mix as well. She offended me greatly with many of her libels and her homophobic slurs and her threats, and as long as she persists I will stand up for myself and my work. I will not tolerate people lying about me or misrepresenting my work, even if they are doing it on an obscure and silly blog that contains nothing else of significance. Not only that, I am proud of my expensive education, and I have credentials that I worked hard for and earned at great expense, and my teachers and advisors were people at the top of their fields. Ainslie is an uneducated barbarian who thinks that reading Gary Zukov's popular book constitutes a physics education. I will not sit still for insults and disrespect from overweeningly arrogant and ignorant fools like Ainslie. Besides.... I've got some time on my hands, and it's kind of fun seeing what she comes up with next, how far down her own throat she can stick her foot, like in the August fiasco "demo" of incompetence and ignorance. She learned one lesson then: never give actual data or details, because they _will_ be examined and fabrications will be uncovered. So now we just get claims from her, no data or descriptions at all, and that's all we will be getting in the future.Thanks for the note, I'm glad you are still watching. Look at it as sport, because that's really all it is. As you note, from a scientific and technical aspect she has been utterly put down, long ago, and all that is left of her "work" and her "thesis" is a twitching mess, full of holes, contradictions, falsehood and fabrications.

[fletcher]

Jeez Grimer .. I don't think I've seen you so purposefully & wilfully derail a thread as this before - you can run but you can't hide.

Since it is established that you have a hypothesis & a theory, which you obviously wish to have taken seriously, then please ignore distractions & help those interested in your theory with some experimental design ideas & parameters to test your hypothesis.