Big try at gravity wheel

[MarkE]

You can't See what Tom was showing - and so you attack him....

That is pitiful...

More work,,,,,, done faster..............A new way to use Buoyancy................Hmmmmmmmmm

and p.s I never claimed that Tom's video's were OU, just that he showed the inception that led to the layered ZED system -

What did the layered ZED's do - even more work ,,,,,,,,,,, even faster...........

What does that do to the Conservation of energy? Got a guess.

I am sorry you missed it Mark ................ But not everyone did ;-)

Wayne

Mr. Miller made a series of false claims in those videos.  I have pointed out the falsity of those claims.  What the ZEDs do not do:  Is produce any surplus work over the input energy applied to them.

You are back to your appeal for "The Emperor's New Clothes":  IE that only smart people see the free energy you falsely claim.  Not one supporter of HER/Zydro, including you can show an energy balance that nets surplus energy from any of your concepts or constructed prototypes on a cycle by cycle basis.

[mrwayne]

Mr. Miller made a series of false claims in those videos.  I have pointed out the falsity of those claims.  What the ZEDs do not do:  Is produce any surplus work over the input energy applied to them.

Mark, You make my point exactly... thank you for that.

You have defined what you saw - analyzed it and agreed with yourself.

You think you must create a surplus work over the input --- No - your education has limited you.

That may be what you were taught in school - and your belief certainly completes your hard and rude opposition. It blinds you against what we have been trying to sharing for over two years.

Do you want to understand or not - if so - learn to listen - Red can teach you.

I know you two have been rude to each other - drop it and move on.

I do understand, If you already know everything that can be known - or you are already in control of every process in the universe - then of course... stay the course.

If you want to learn what you do not know - ask Red - and learn what you are missing.

The "Ah ha!" moment is worth it.

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Also - the apology will be much simpler if you quit attacking good people.

Wayne

[MarkE]

Mark, You make my point exactly... thank you for that.

You think you must create a surplus work over the input --- No - your education has limited you.

That may be what you were taught in school - and your belief certainly completes your hard and rude opposition. It blinds you to what we have been trying to sharing for over two years.

Do you want to understand or not - if so - learn to listen - Red can teach you.

I do understand, If you already know everything that can be known - or you are already in control of every process in the universe - then of course... stay the course.

If you want to learn what you do not know - ask Red - and learn what you are missing.

The "Ah ha!" moment is worth it.

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Also - the apology will be much simpler if you quit attacking good people.

Wayne

Mr. Travis you have been selling the false claim that you have devised a method to generate useful energy for free to investors for years.  You have never delivered on those claims and you never will.  This is why you have never conducted the demonstration tests witnessed by Mark Dansie that you have promised for more than two years.  If you think folks who sell false claims and outright lies to their family and neighbors are "good people", you are free to hold that opinion.  You being one of those folks selling the false claims, you have a vested interest in the assessment.

There is no "ah ha" to be had.  Gravity behaves conservatively.  Each time Red_Sunset has put forth his claim that he knows a cheat on the conservative nature of gravity, he has come up as empty as you have when pressed for any evidence that your machines can deliver surplus energy cycle by cycle.  If you don't want to be called out for making false claims, there is a simple answer:  Stop making false claims.

[powercat]

OU - what is OU, it seems to be such a hang up for some - and just the word seems to draw so much emotion for few.
Is it more energy out than was put in?
Is it continual Energy from a black box with no inputs?
Does all science support the idea that OU must defy science?
Is OU really an extraordinary claim?
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If you want to discuss the meaning of OU I suggest you make your post in the right section of the forum.
http://www.overunity.com/understanding-overunity/#.UwYUk_l_sSY

Our engineers - and the ones that have visited - use common engineering to evaluate our system and they concluded - the system is Overunity.

You are a complete liar, if this was true Mark Dansie would have completed his verification, but as we all know you have continuously broken your word on this matter over the years, you will not allow anyone capable of scientific analysis to view your device, because you know it does not work as you claim.

As for the rest of your post it is full of diversion tactics, you have been told numerous times by members of this forum that it is up to you to prove your claim, you have repeatedly failed to do this, it is now obvious to most people that you are making a false claim.

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You need to get it into your deceitful delusional mind that you are the one that needs to provide evidence or shut up and go away
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[MarkE]

Powercat, these things never end well for the investors.  HER/Zydro is in the position of a Ponzi scheme.  The only way to repay early investors is by finding new suckers.  Wayne Travis insists that all is well and that HER/Zydro do not need new funds to continue on their road to nowhere.