Big try at gravity wheel

[camelherder49]

True. But the original question can gravity cause
energy generation is not being answered.
Why is it so hard to admit that gravity causes
water to fall when presented the opportunity.
With the hydrology cycle supplying the energy
it still does not prevent gravity causing the
water to fall.

[MarkE]

True. But the original question can gravity cause
energy generation is not being answered.
Why is it so hard to admit that gravity causes
water to fall when presented the opportunity.
With the hydrology cycle supplying the energy
it still does not prevent gravity causing the
water to fall.

It's just amazing to watch these sorts of pretzel logic struggles.  The Incobrasa machine like the fraudulent claims of Wayne Travis purports to obtain energy from cyclically lifting and lowering weights.  Because gravity is a conservative field, the harvestable energy lowering those weights in one part of a cycle must be paid back restoring them to their original potential in another part of the cycle yielding no net energy.

There are two choices: harvest once, IE non-cyclically, such as dragging the moon and thus ultimately lowering its orbit, or obtain energy from something else that then provides the GPE to harvest, such as sunlight evaporating sea water.

[TinselKoala]

@camelherder:

Gravity does not "cause" energy generation. Does a bank "cause" money generation? No, it does not. Gravity, or rather difference in gravitational potential, is an energy storage mechanism, just like a bank is a money storage mechanism.

Unlike banks, though, gravity doesn't pay interest on deposits. You get out what you put in, minus losses, nothing more. Gravity does not cause energy generation!

Gravity only "causes" water to fall, if there is a lower place for the water to fall to. It's not the gravity that causes the fall, it's the difference in gravitational potential between where the water is, and where it's going to fall to.

[mrwayne]

The Incobrasa machine like the fraudulent claims of Wayne Travis purports to obtain energy from cyclically lifting and lowering weights. 

LOL........Mark you have a personal problem. That is Amazing...

Where did I claim to be lifting and lowering weights. Where have you proven I am a fraud.

Your false statements are the proof of your fraud.

[mrwayne]

@camelherder:

Gravity does not "cause" energy generation. Does a bank "cause" money generation? No, it does not. Gravity, or rather difference in gravitational potential, is an energy storage mechanism, just like a bank is a money storage mechanism.

Unlike banks, though, gravity doesn't pay interest on deposits. You get out what you put in, minus losses, nothing more. Gravity does not cause energy generation!

Gravity only "causes" water to fall, if there is a lower place for the water to fall to. It's not the gravity that causes the fall, it's the difference in gravitational potential between where the water is, and where it's going to fall to.

I was just thinking how gravity is utilized to change course and accelerate travel in our solar system.

We use it to reduce costs - not a bad idea, probably a science around that idea.