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[MarkE]

This is because the ball in the bowl behaves like a pendulum. It is a pendulum without a string.

Milkovic is a short trip to go. Explanation:

2 is a lever rotating around the pivot 3 and normally it rests on the left side on the anvil 1 due to the overbalance on that side.

Supposed a weight of 10 Kg is needed on the right side to move the left side up. Then each time we want to do a hit with that lever against the anvil we have to push down the right side with a force of 10 Kg and then release it.

Now we attach a 10 Kg weight 4 to that right side. Then the left side of the lever comes up and stays there. But we are to lazy to remove that weight each time we want back the overbalance on the left side in order to hit against the anvil.

Hence we swing that 10 Kg weight like a pendulum. Each time the pendulum reaches one of its upper positions, the 10 Kg weight becomes weightless and therefore the lever hits the anvil due to the momentarily regained overbalance on the left side.

All energy we need to do this is the energy needed to overcome the friction of the pendulum (instead of removing that 10 kg weight).

Any further questions?

The two-stage oscillators have been analyzed to death.  Reactive energy transfers back and forth through between different parts of the device.  However, those transfers do not perform external work.  As soon as any external load is applied to one of these contraptions, they load down just like any other machine.

[Zeitmaschine]

The pendulum can be seen as sling (weapon) when used in rotary fashion. It sure is now no pendulum any longer but the centrifugal and centripetal physical properties are the same as the pendulum when the weight is at a certain velocity. At that point the rotating sling shot finds equivalency to a motor with an eccentric weight (your standard vibrator).

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No complicated math, just plain logic, "Vibration consumes more input power" = "Bending of the beam consumes more input power "

As I said before: A standard vibrator has not the slightest thing to do with a bob's weight hovering in zero gravity. Hence that discussion is useless.

The two-stage oscillators have been analyzed to death. Reactive energy transfers back and forth through between different parts of the device. However, those transfers do not perform external work.

Then by analyzing to death the two-stage oscillators, what was the result why this Finsrud »perpetuum mobile« (in brackets!) is obviously working? It performs external work by means of pendulums!

And what was the result why this Milkovic mechanical amplifier is obviously also working? Especially that with the 9 generator flashlights (around 18:00). Do you know how tiring it is to continuously press and release one such a generator flashlight for just a minute or two by hand? Here Milkovic presses 9 flashlight at once without effort!

If there is no result of that analysis, then I have to assume that »analyzed to death« means »convincing people that something can't work, even if they see it working right in front of their own eyes.«

As it seems ...

[Red_Sunset]

As I said before: A standard vibrator has not the slightest thing to do with a bob's weight hovering in zero gravity. Hence that discussion is useless.

Then by analyzing to death the two-stage oscillators, what was the result why this Finsrud »perpetuum mobile« (in brackets!) is obviously working? It performs external work by means of pendulums!

And what was the result why this Milkovic mechanical amplifier is obviously also working? Especially that with the 9 generator flashlights (around 18:00). Do you know how tiring it is to continuously press and release one such a generator flashlight for just a minute or two by hand? Here Milkovic presses 9 flashlight at once without effort!

If there is no result of that analysis, then I have to assume that »analyzed to death« means »convincing people that something can't work, even if they see it working right in front of their own eyes.«

As it seems ...  

Zeit,

The Milkovic pendulum setup is brilliant as a idea and system.  I can not say anything about the principle and machine demonstrated than I have already said.  I am not for or against. The logical conclusion I shared might be correct or maybe not, in the meantime there is nothing more persuasive out there to convince me otherwise.

We have here a similar situation as we have with the RARenergia gravity generator.  The inventor does not provide a positive conclusion for outputting power in a standalone configuration. 
The Milkovic youtube link you posted is from 2011 where he confirms positive energy gain. None of the subsequent video's show anything that confirms a standalone system cranking power.   In a video of 3 months ago, I still see him pushing a pendulum with his finger. 
All the information relating to the invention was publicly shared and there must have been many replications.  I have not seen a pendulum that is maintained by its own output.  Are they all still pushing with their finger the pendulum?
What do you want me to believe at this point ?   My "self proposed logic" is starting to convince myself of its accuracy.

I have not written off the invention, i still think it is brilliant but I need a more convincing logic or demonstration to say, "yes that is it".
So until then, we keep it pending.

If you have something more, I definitely would like to hear more.

Regards,  Red_Sunset

[Zeitmaschine]

I have not written off the invention, i still think it is brilliant but I need a more convincing logic or demonstration to say, "yes that is it".

What convinces me is, that there is proof that science is not interested in any free accessible energy source. That proof is the Finsrud »perpetuum mobile« standing around in a museum in a glass cabinet instead in a scientific laboratory in order to find out its operating principle. Or I'm wrong? Did someone hear anything in the mass media about the Finsrud »perpetuum mobile«? Actually that thing should be on all headlines. Instead it is »hidden« in a museum like some age-old machinery e.g. the first telegraph.

Strange isn't it?

[Zeitmaschine]

Apropos:

The two-stage oscillators have been analyzed to death.

Isn't that odd: The Stepanov setup (claiming OU) consists of two transformers and two capacitors, meaning two oscillation frequencies - like a (mechanical) two-stage oscillator.

Now should I believe here in an odd coincidence?