Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?

[lumen]

@TK

The test could have been done better in many ways but the overall result is not that easily discounted.

I believe the ON/OFF time was not that critical and only was simply estimated because it was not actually used in the equation. It was just a guess based on some visual attribute.

The actual power consumed throughout both of the tests was captured accurately by the equipment.


I,m not fully convinced at this point either. I keep hope that the smart people doing the testing are correct and simply left out some information.

[Gwandau]

 
The swedish scientists performing these tests are still not fully convinced themselves, as they clearly point out again and again.

I would like to emphasize that no truly scientific schooled person would accept the hitherto presented results as final proof and these guys from the Swedish University of Uppsala performing the tests are no exception.

This forum harbor a set of guys with an unfortunate attitude of presumtion in that they are repeatedly overeager to give their own guesses and conclusions more credit than the actual scientists performing the experiments. This is quite embarrassing since none of these forum members has any scientific mandate whatsoever to even attempt getting involved in critiscism of the scientific methodology performed during the tests. The swedish scientists belong to an academic level of empiric rutine and rigor that far transcends any attempt from amateurs to apply their home brewed critiscism.  There is enough  critiscism coming from the conservative scientific community, no need to act like a mob in their wake.

So please keep the discussion on a scientifically correct level and try to participate in this highly intriguing process in a bit more objective stage of mind.


Nobody cares wether you or I believe or not in the E-cat, what we believe does not carry any weight whatsoever. The only ones that have any ability and mandate to make a difference in the validation process are guys like the independent swedish team having full access to the E-cat for test runs.


As they state in the conclusion: "The March test is to be considered an improvement over the one performed in December, in that various problems encountered in the first experiment were addressed and solved in the second one. In the next test experiment which is expected to start in the summer of 2013, and will last about six months, a long term performance of the E-Cat HT2 will be tested. This test will be crucial for further attempts to unveil the origin of the heat phenomenon observed so far."

Gwandau

[profitis]

it still wont make a difference @gwandau.you can have the bestest team for the longest test but the box remains closed,the assumption of rossi,s frends doing tests lingers.in this way rossi is tilting his bum at 90degrees toward the air and asking for an establishment dildo,they will squash him like a bug.he must open that box or somebody must replicate.

[markdansie]

it still wont make a difference @gwandau.you can have the bestest team for the longest test but the box remains closed,the assumption of rossi,s frends doing tests lingers.in this way rossi is tilting his bum at 90degrees toward the air and asking for an establishment dildo,they will squash him like a bug.he must open that box or somebody must replicate.

I actually agree with you (will check with my doctor today) The posts I made were reference to other academics or are more than a little alarmed at the quality of the tests and how they were performed. Given the restrictions they did a fair job, but they like many others who have tried are not allowed to do basic tests that would satisfy everyone. Unless true independence is granted and accepted methodologies used to measure heat flow, not just tempreture then no progress will be made.
I can get the same data and results if put more energy than can be dissipated into any device.
kind Regards

[profitis]

no need 4 doctor @markdansie,im same as you with everything,skeptic until everdence.unfortunately the few overunities out ther are swamped by the fakes,delusionals and the mal-informed so we must stay alert.ther is also another side to the coin here meaning rossi may want this to go the way its going,these italians r very shrewd.you cant deny that oil people dont like lenr and he may be wanting to paint a picture of a conartist,meantime hes the real deal,talk about a mind twister.