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Rosemary Ainslie Circuit Demonstration, June 1 2013

Started by TinselKoala, June 01, 2013, 11:38:18 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: MileHigh on June 14, 2013, 02:25:46 AM
TK:

Unfortunately Rosemary is locked into a never-ending spin zone with respect to you and your excellent clips and she will never concede anything.

With Poynt she is in "play nice" mode right now.  Assuming that over this coming week that Poynt has the time to build the circuit and test it, then Rosie Posie is going to get blown out of the water.  Poynt has access to that dream four-channel DSO and there is just no chance.

So I suppose that we won't be surprised when Rosie reenters the spin zone with respect to Poynt.  What else can there be?

You just can't get no satisfaction.

MileHigh

Yes.... that's right. She doesn't even watch my videos, you know, because they cause so much cognitive dissonance that her brain is "brought to boil" and she can't see straight.

If .99 gets results from his build that are significantly different from those I got -- and still get -- from Tar Baby.... I'll eat Tar Baby entire, with hot sauce.

I am particularly interested in Ainslie's claim that "they" have a compact version without excessive wiring length, that oscillates nevertheless. When I first built and tested this circuit I used a tight layout and buswire construction and did not find oscillations. Only after I unsoldered the mosfets, provided them with sockets and long lead lengths approximating Ainslie's poor connections and wire maze, did I obtain the Ainslie parasitic feedback oscillations.

I'm also interested in her claim that "they" can operate without an external negative bias supply and with a built-in source of timing, not needing the FG. Of course I was the first actually to demonstrate this, last year sometime, and I'm quite certain that Ainslie could not do it on her own. Therefore, if this claim of hers is true, there must be someone knowledgeable in electronics providing her with substantial material help. Who is this person and why is he or she not available for dialog?

Farmhand

I refuse to believe that anyone in mainstream engineering or science would even begin to take Rosemary seriously. Which only leaves the pseudo scientific and engineering types or the gullible. I don't see that she requires debunking, anyone that believes her is already lost to logic. The more time people give her the more her objective is realized. Taking her seriously about what she says is like debunking the contents of a MAD comic.

I have to wonder why so much effort is put into debunking someone so deluded. If she doesn't know anything of electronics where is all this stuff coming from ? Must be others involved. If so why are they hiding behind a deluded woman ? And what do they possibly hope to achieve by doing that ? It makes no sense. If she was ignored she could do no harm.

Can anybody give the name of an institution or a qualified person that takes what she says seriously ? If not why the fuss. If she is trying to get investment based on lies the police should take care of it, and if anyone has been ripped off it's up to them to go to the police. If anyone is taking her seriously then the people paying them their wages ought to stop.

Who has she ripped off ? What is she selling ? How can anyone take her seriously anyway. None of makes any sense.

I can get a Logic chip to oscillate reliably in a similar way and drive a mosfet, it's nothing special. Most setups have a self oscillating frequency and with logic chip oscillators if one part of the oscillator is left unconnected the chip oscillates at frequency determined by the usual factors ( sometimes requiring a touch, but not for some chips). A CD 4001 chip oscillates at about 20 Mhz I think from memory different individual chips have a slightly different frequency they like to freely oscillate at, as do different chip types.

To me this entire debacle looks like a bunch of wannabe hunting dogs ripping into a stuffed teddy bear. 

Cheers

She must have some attribute that attracts people because some seem totally obsessed with her. Boggles the mind.

..


SeaMonkey

Quote from: TinselKoala
Therefore, if this claim of hers is true, there must be someone knowledgeable in electronics providing her with substantial material help. Who is this person and why is he or she not available for dialog?

Could it be, (horror of horrors!) that she is
actually studying and learning?  Rosie is an
exceptionally bright woman who is no doubt
fully capable of mastering many technicalities.

Perhaps I'm one of the few (or even possibly
the only) who likes and respects Rosie, but I
do.  Her communications skills are incredibly
good and her sense of humor is wondrous.
She's a woman with great skill in the art of
stimulating interesting dialogue.  Aye, she's
feisty and hard to pin down when it comes to
wrestling with her - but then she is a woman.

From my vantage point it would seem that
Rosie is winning the conflict in the poetically
dramatic sense.  Her "men callers" just keep
comin' back for more and more of her wit and
humor!

Au revoir!

Quote from: FarmHand
She must have some attribute that attracts people because some seem totally obsessed with her. Boggles the mind.

Aye, that is so!

poynt99

Farmhand,

I can't help but feel as though you're dis'ing me.

There are several good reasons to question Rose and her actions. One good one for me is her claim to be considered for the OUR Award. One other good reason may be her disrespect for all who oppose her.

If it pains you to see people making an effort to keep the record straight, then read elsewhere. No one here wants your negative sentiments.
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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TinselKoala

@Farmhand:
It's apparent that you don't know the history of Rosemary Ainslie. I first encountered her in late 2008 or early 2009, when someone from this forum contacted me with the information that she had a patent on a simple circuit, large and repeatable OU ratios, with publication and review/vetting by the alphabet agencies that she still talks about. So I found her on the Naked Scientists forum, trying to discuss her ideas with professional EEs who actually designed and patented circuitry with mosfets, like switching power supplies and boost converters, etc. I found very quickly that the claim to have a patent was a lie; she filed a WIPO application which she never followed up. But the NS people actually did hold real granted patents, and believed her when she said she did.

She finally got banned there for spouting nonsense in her aggressive manner, and went to Energetic Forum where she encouraged everyone to build and test her circuit and her claims. So.... I did so, and immediately found about the flipped duty cycle of her published 555 timer circuit. Trying to get this point across to the geniuses at EF and to Ainslie took literally _months_ of wrangling and arguing, and to this day Ainslie still doesn't understand either the significance or the reasons for the flipped cycle or its effect on the circuit. I am still astounded over the months of people claiming things about that 555 timer circuit which has about three dollars worth of components in it and can be built and tested in half an hour.... I took a LOT of flack over that duty cycle issue. She thinks she was heating her load with a 3 or 4 percent duty cycle when she was actually using 96-97 percent ON, and in fact I reproduced her temperature/time profiles nearly exactly using the long duty cycle. Many of us, as listed above, worked on her circuit at that time-- and she got banned from EF after she turned on her former believers there when they couldn't verify all of her claims.

It's a long story. The punch line is that many of us spent a lot of time on Ainslie, at first examining and then debunking her various claims and getting nothing but venomous disrespect and insults from her. But she will not accept our work and stop making her claims. I did not start this thread until _after_ she had already "postponed" her announced June 1 demonstration, at which she had promised to address the issues raised by her critics here. She is damaging the whole idea of independent research and giving lots of ammunition to those traditionally trained scientists that look at websites like this one and laugh themselves silly. "We", meaning people like you and koalas like me, do not need this kind of false prophet corrupting our real investigations. When she claims to have publications she gets a certain "street cred" when she approaches someone new to her... just as she did before when she was claiming to have a patent. But just like the "patent",  the claims of "publications" are lies. She has the Quantum magazine publication and the posts to Rossi's JNP vanity blog and she's been rejected over and over by real journals. So after, for example, an IEEE journal editor sees her claims and reviews her work and finds it ridiculous and mendacious, how do you think he's going to view the next "crackpot idea" that comes along? Will his attitude be more, or less favorable, considering his prior exposure to the Ainslie phenomenon?

She only gets reactions like in this thread when she provokes them. If she had not made the PESN announcement, repeating the mendacious claims and the insults towards the people who did work on her stuff, then this thread would not exist and nobody here would be talking about Ainslie at all. If she had actually managed a demonstration that showed what she claims, and refuted all of my demos like she claims she can, that would be Waaay different from what we've got now, with her snivelling "postponement".  She can work in peace and quiet without worrying about a bunch of dogs with a stuffed teddy bear.... but when she takes her crapdoodle on the road, insults people and harasses professors and editors, she will get a reaction.

She's insulted and disrespected all of us actual builders and simulators, and me by far the worst, although PW and .99 are right up there too. I spent many years studying, and then paying for my studies, and to have my education and my teachers dissed so profoundly by someone who is as ignorant as Ainslie makes the matter personal, and as long as she continues to be so loudly wrong without apology, I'll continue to be loudly RIGHT with the truth.