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Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.

Started by synchro1, June 09, 2013, 11:07:49 AM

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synchro1

A set of 3D designed and printed bearings bushings would really help tremedously. The two sides could snap buckle in the center of the iron axle bore hole. Glueing the bearings in place that way presented my biggest headache. A precisión 3D printed snap socket on each end for the precisión bearings would put a fine finishing touch on the rotor. The force in the shorted coil that accelerates Konzen's clumsy rotor is enough to rotate this kind of small radius low friction rotor full circle. There's hardly any torque, but it's timing self advances and the propulsión force increases exponentially with acceleration untill the rotor reaches hyper Sonic velocity.

A square iron nut with a smooth bore hole would work best for the bearing magnet core holder. This kind of rotor's very versatile. It can easily switch to difour pole monopolar diametric or N S N S.

synchro1

Here's an excellent video of shorted coil acceleration coupled with a clear and concise "Lenz Delay" theory:

"My current theory is that the generator coil is too slow to react 'properly', it tries to hinder the approach by setting up a north magnetic field, but the coil is slow and when the field up it's too late, the magnet is already going away, so instead of slowing it down it pushes the magnet away and speeding it up".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeXadyVSxj4

The shorted coil can be viewed as an "Infinite Capacitor".

These are pictures of perhaps the World's first self powered Alternator:.

Top to bottom :

1- View of the 3/4 inch diametically magnetized spinner in the 2 1/2 inch PVC protective coupling.
2- Miniature 1/4 inch O.D. , 1/8 inch I.D. all ceramic bearing on top of a Radio Shack 12 volt 6 amp hour battery.
3- Position of the 12 volt Reed Switch on the "Series Bifilar Air Core Spool Coil". Pins should point away from the magnet..
4- Top secured for runing with coil seated down partly inside the output core.
5- The six main componants: Power coil on the PVC coupling, 1/8 inch brass axel, ceramic bearing, battery and Reed Switch.
6- Circuit schematic.

This setup would work best to achieve self acceleration with the simple addition of a mechanical shorting DPDT blade switch accoss the coil leads!


The trick here would be to short the coil leads with the DPDT blade switch before the reed switch contacts fuse at high RPM. A DPDT blade switch would disconnect the power and simultainiously short the coil for self acceleration

The small radius very low friction rotor is the critical factor in the self powering effect!

synchro1

Quote from: Erfinder on December 16, 2014, 02:24:45 PM
synchro1,


Like you and many others, I see the significance of this effect, however, the thing that we haven't been paying attention to, ignoring it as it were, is the fact that acceleration is limited!  We cannot ignore the fact that the gain in RPM is limited.  We note the acceleration, and we also note when the acceleration ends, we understand the conditions needed to get this far.  What we haven't comprehended is how to lift the limit!

This concept has been under investigation for some time now and we still haven't figured it out.  While the effect is novel, it is of no practical value as is.  If the system accelerates up to a certain speed and then the acceleration stops, how are we justified in considering this as being useful?  We need to comprehend the mechanism which limits further acceleration.  We want runaway conditions when the load is attached, and not just limited acceleration, right? We want the generator to produce torque which exceeds that which is being provided by the prime mover...right?  We feel that this is the way forward, and maybe it is, but as long as acceleration dies down, we won't get there with this method. 

Think about this....up to a certain point the coil opposes change in current.  After a certain point is reached, the coil opposes changes in potential.  The change over constitutes at least in my mind a migration from operating under the laws governing one energy storage mechanism to the laws which govern the other.

In motors we note the same behavior, immediate acceleration followed by stabilized RPM.  We know who the culprit is that is responsible for limiting further acceleration.  We claim to have removed the negative effects associated with CEMF from the equation when discussing this acceleration under load phenomena, in truth, we have not. 

In my opinion the solution to the speed limitation is found in understanding that the effect itself is tied to the size of the storage reservoir, speed increase and its eventual plateau is an indication of the size of this reservoir.  The solution in my opinion lies in establishing those conditions whereby the reservoir increases in size with increasing RPM. 


Regards

The soloution is blindingly simple! The shorted coil simply needs to be gingerly repositioned. I sustain the acceleration  by pushing the coil in towards the rotor with my fingers. The red wire coil pictured above is merely held in place by pressure from the tight fitting hole. The coil's free to move in and out. You just need to fish for a new sweet spot. It takes pilot skills to reposition it in the narrow range needed to sustain the acceleration, but it stabilizes toward the upward range of the speed limitations. The thing is the rotor is spinning at nearly Hyper Sonic velocity with no input!

synchro1

@Erfinder,

People ask me to do that when I'm trying to recruit replicators. Almost any thing will work. Take Hob Nire's setup in the video I posted a link to above; Hob's shorted coil is fixed in position. All Hob, or anyone would need to do is to place that shorted coil on a moveable track with a screw positioner and he could disconnect the power to the pulse coil and sustain the rotor acceleration by repositioning the shorted coil in towards the rotor a fraction of an inch or so!

tinman

Quote from: Erfinder on December 16, 2014, 02:24:45 PM
synchro1,


Like you and many others, I see the significance of this effect, however, the thing that we haven't been paying attention to, ignoring it as it were, is the fact that acceleration is limited!  We cannot ignore the fact that the gain in RPM is limited.  We note the acceleration, and we also note when the acceleration ends, we understand the conditions needed to get this far.  What we haven't comprehended is how to lift the limit!

   

In my opinion the solution to the speed limitation is found in understanding that the effect itself is tied to the size of the storage reservoir, speed increase and its eventual plateau is an indication of the size of this reservoir.  The solution in my opinion lies in establishing those conditions whereby the reservoir increases in size with increasing RPM. 


Regards
You also need to remove the coil altogether,and then do another RPM reading. I think you will find that the RPM will also go up without the coil and core there at all.