New generator patent using environment temperature to generate power

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@jbignes5,notice how libre will directly avoid a discussion with me.he is scared of physicists who disagree with kelvin,s crap.

[jbignes5]

 They avoid what they don't understand. It's clear they idolize certain aspects of the new ways and reject without thought of the old ways. If they looked and understood the old ways they would see clear evidence, empirical evidence, that law is not a law in every circumstance. This is the way of sheeple. They follow without question.


A great man once said:


"Question everything. Learn something. Answer nothing."

Euripides

So again what about the Linde device do you not understand? A self cooling device that could more then enough create a vast difference in temperature to generate energy in the very same process of condensing oxygen into a liquid and be self powering as well to boot.

In Tesla's view this could be transposed to the electrical phenomena. He created a bifilar coil do not only boost the potential of the energy by accelerating the charges in the coil through self induction of the bifilar channels but also increase the capacity of the coil to handle vastly increased charges. There is also the ability of the coil to enhance the magnetic portion of the coil, which means it has a stranger magnetic component in the same instance. This has been shown over and over in a vast array of experiments with the bifilar method. Charge acceleration is also used in the Large particle accelerators of our day.
Thane Hines also proved that rotor acceleration happens when you include a high voltage component buried in a low voltage coil. In order for this to happen you must separate the coils via self termination of the high voltage component.

The other way to do such a thing is to use the high voltage into a designed device then use a transformer like action to transform the voltage to lower voltage inside of that transformer. Why do you think Tesla called his latter devices like motor, transformers? So you get the almost lossless transportation of the higher voltage to the device then transform it into high current inside of that device. With the right coils one can magnify this process and net more out then in.

All matter works in this way. All objects in the universe works this way. Why exactly do you think outer space is so cold?

Einstien was completely wrong about matter. It does not contain any energy. Matter displaces the medium which is full of energy. This displacement of the medium is what gives mass it's energy value. It does not contain any energy itself but induces a value from it's environment in the medium. If the medium was absent then all matter in that void would have zero energy. But because the medium is everywhere, just varied densities, then all matter can be detected by our eyes and devices. The only exception to this rule is Black Holes. This is where matter is transparent to all detection unless we look for voids and assume there is a Black Hole at that point. The reason the matter collected at that point is not sensed is because that matter has become totally inert and passes all energy like glass passes light. But it also creates a void in the medium which centers itself and creates a true zero space. This is due to the massive amount of crushed matter that has been stripped of all of it's potential and becomes true zero space. Matter is the reason for this possibility since matter displaces the medium. In this case matter has totally displaced the medium and nothing can detect energy from that space except for looking for the absence of energy. This is also evident by the massive energy emitted from an active black hole at it's poles. Likewise this is a good way to sense an active Black Hole since energy is ejected from the matter as it gets crushed. This is due to the medium being displaced by the crushed matter.

These concepts were being worked on by Tesla and other Aetheric scientists. Only in Tesla's case he had empirical evidence that has been crushed into obscurity and brushed aside like other unusual forms of Science. Look at things like Static machines and we can now understand why they exist and how to utilize this to our advantage. Ignore these things and we will forever be paying for our energy and creating math and theories that have no base in fact to explain what we see but don't understand.

[MileHigh]

Jbignes5:

So you get the almost lossless transportation of the higher voltage to the device then transform it into high current inside of that device. With the right coils one can magnify this process and net more out then in.

On another thread we looked at the "series" bifilar coil patent and found noting special.  I noticed your other comments about the Tesla bifilar coil and they reflect a belief system rather than fact.

As Mark said, LibreEnergia is correct on the thermodynamics stuff.  On the electronics stuff your belief system is just that, a belief system.  You can't actually do bench experiments to confirm your statements.

Going back to the bifilar coil for electromagnets and Tesla's patent, all that the patent says is that you can make a self-resonatng coil with interwoven windings of a single conductor such that the interwoven windings create a higher voltage gradient between adjacent loops of the coil.  Using the term "bifilar" is actually a misnomer, because the coil consists of a single wire only.

Using the interwoven winding technique will give you a coil with marginally different characteristics from a similar coil that is conventionally wound, and that's about it.  The main characteristic that the two coils will share is their inductance, and that will be approximately the same.  The capacitive effects associated with the interweaving are minuscule as compared to the inductive effects.

The patent just describes the coil and it's properties, it does not mention a single practical application for the coil.  I believe that what has happened is that over enthusiasm with respect to the Tesla bifilar coil for electromagnets has resulted in a lot of wishful thinking about what you can do with it that has no basis in fact.

MileHigh

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@jbignes.dont listen to milehigh.he cant explain to us why a concave mirror in a isothermal box raises the temperature of its focal point above ambient.we must only listen to complainants who can prove me wrong ibignes.

[jbignes5]

Jbignes5:

On another thread we looked at the "series" bifilar coil patent and found noting special.  I noticed your other comments about the Tesla bifilar coil and they reflect a belief system rather than fact.

As Mark said, LibreEnergia is correct on the thermodynamics stuff.  On the electronics stuff your belief system is just that, a belief system.  You can't actually do bench experiments to confirm your statements.

Going back to the bifilar coil for electromagnets and Tesla's patent, all that the patent says is that you can make a self-resonatng coil with interwoven windings of a single conductor such that the interwoven windings create a higher voltage gradient between adjacent loops of the coil.  Using the term "bifilar" is actually a misnomer, because the coil consists of a single wire only.

Using the interwoven winding technique will give you a coil with marginally different characteristics from a similar coil that is conventionally wound, and that's about it.  The main characteristic that the two coils will share is their inductance, and that will be approximately the same.  The capacitive effects associated with the interweaving are minuscule as compared to the inductive effects.

The patent just describes the coil and it's properties, it does not mention a single practical application for the coil.  I believe that what has happened is that over enthusiasm with respect to the Tesla bifilar coil for electromagnets has resulted in a lot of wishful thinking about what you can do with it that has no basis in fact.

MileHigh

Again the genene is what to you. And yes I am in the middle of testing a new experiment that proves this concept beyond a shadow of a doubt. Again ignore the work of others as you will but it is valid and tested by credible experimenters with video proof. My proof will be forming and video proof will be provided.


So you investigated the bifilar coil in pancake form? Highly doubtful. The increased capacity between the two coils hooked up not in series but diametrical opposite polarities in series is not unusual to you? How about the unusual boosting beyond the capability of a normal pancake coil? No... still no idea what your talking about? Obviously.


The patent in itself Says this and I quote:


"In electric apparatus or systems in which alternating currents are employed the self-induction of the coils or conductors may, and in fact, in many cases does operate disadvantagely by giving rise to false currents which often reduce what is known as the commercial efficiency of the apparatus composing the system or operate detrimentally in other respects. The effects of self-induction, above referred to, are known to be neutralized by proportioning to a proper degree the capacity of the circuit with relation to the self-induction and frequency of the currents. This has been accomplished heretofore by the use of condensers constructed and applied as separate instruments. My present invention has for its object to avoid the employment of condensers which are expensive, cumbersome and difficult to maintain in perfect condition, and to so construct the coils themselves as to accomplish the same ultimate object."

Also lets read really what Tesla knew of this effect:

"I have found that in every coil there exists a certain relation between its self-induction and capacity that permits a current of given frequency and potential to pass through it with no other opposition than that of ohmic resistance, or, in other words, as though it possessed no self-induction. This is due to the mutual relations existing between the special character of the current and the self-induction and capacity of the coil, the latter quantity being just capable of neutralizing the self-induction for that frequency. It is well-known that the higher the frequency or potential difference of the current the smaller the capacity required to counteract the self-induction; hence, in any coil, however small the capacity, it may be sufficient for the purpose stated if the proper conditions in other respects be secured. In the ordinary coils the difference of potential between adjacent turns or spires is very small, so that while they are in a sense condensers, they possess but very small capacity and the relations between the two quantities, self-induction and capacity, are not such as under any ordinary conditions satisfy the requirements herein contemplated, because the capacity relatively to the self-induction is very small."

Obviously you can not read and understand the concept.

Now lets look at the parallel to linde's device:

Von Linde used a process that cuts the energy requirements in half or more by circulating the gasses in a spiral tube first in one direction down the stack then back up the stack in the opposite direction. This accomplishes the double cooling effect by the same stream of air. The end of the tube is used then to draw heat away from the air just entering the stack.

If we apply this to what we see in the bifilar coil design patented by Tesla we see that the energy exiting the end of the series coils pulls on the energy entering the coils. This is the acceleration of the energy or charges and the increased capacitance of the setup allows for expansion of the potential difference and subsequent acceleration of the charges entering the coils. This is the same process they use in accelerating particles in the larger particle accelerators. What charges are is to be debated in another topic but lets just agree that it is the very same process.

Now what happens when the bifilar coil is used in the way that the gegene uses them. Inductively the charges are pumped through the bifilar mass and into the load creating a much greater efficiency of the supplied signal by the induction cooker. This is working on a closed loop of bifilar coil to load circuit and has little do with any initiating expense of the induction cooker. In fact it could be looped back to the induction cooker via a 1to1 transformer and diode rectifier to supply a stripped version of current for an inverter to supply the induction cooker with. Just like Kapanadze did with his unit. In fact I believe this is exactly how kapanadze did this.

The bifilar coil is the perfect antenna for RF signals. It has a 1to1 ratio and will not reflect any signal back to the supply because of the coils ability to use both halves of the signal and had 0 self induction. The voltage rise does not come from self induction because the increased capacitance cancels out the self induction. The increased voltage comes from the acceleration due to the geometry of the pathways of the in and out points not from traditional self inductance and the increased current also comes from the this process. Hence the higher magnetic response when driven directly of the bifilar coil. The acceleration is also due to the resistance of the design. Both self induction (which is zero due to increased capacity) and the resistance of the wire (which is minimal) allows for a 1000 fold output from a source when compared to another design like a regular pancake coil.

There are two modes to bifilar coils. An active mode and a passive mode. In active mode there is an increase in voltage field radiations which leads to increased magnetic field radiations. In passive mode (as a receiver of any field) it has less restrictive reflections to the source of that field allowing for better transfer of the fields and acceleration of the potential via charge acceleration of the mass of the bifilar coil. A bigger mass in this case would increase output via displacement current of the copper of the bifilar coil. The higher capacitance also plays a role in the swing value of the displacement current.

I suspect Tesla didn't know this stuff he only felt it had better users in regular direct driven coils. His purposes also were in the use of high frequency pulses he was using in his energy transmitter circuits. Unfortunately he got distracted from his investigations by the transmitter work and left it up to us to discover it's usefulness in other endeavors. Which people like JLN Labs have discovered.

Obviously your investigations were sidetracked by disinformation people. Obviously they succeeded in keeping you from the real design of the coil. And obviously someone edited the original patent to not include all the information Tesla included. If you look at the whole patent it was very curt in it's explanation of the coil, which is mostly unlike Tesla and his other patents.

If what I and others are finding out about this coil design doesn't fit with your dogma then go about your business and leave the real work to the REAL scientists in our community.

To tell you the truth you are stuck on what you believe in. You believe the theories of others without proof. When proof does come around you scoff at it's validity without trial. Simply on your belief that your theories are correct. Oh by the way most are finding out that your theories are in error now. One by one they are falling to the wayside by empirical evidence and not blind faith.

**Reference to particle accelerator methodology**
"Physicists use particle accelerators to study the nature of matter and energy. The massive machines accelerate charged particles (ions) through an electric field in a hollow, evacuated tube, eventually colliding each ion with a stationary target or another moving particle."

"Most particle accelerators use electric fields to accelerate charged particles and magnetic fields to guide them. In general, the electric field can be set up to accelerate either negatively or positively charged particles, including particles of antimatter. A magnetic field exerts a force on moving charged particles in such a way that it acts at right angles to the direction in which the particles are moving. The strength of the magnetic field controls the degree to which the charged particles will curve as they move through the field. The magnetic field can thus be used to make charged particles move in a circular path while the electrical fields are used to boost the energy of the particle to higher and higher levels."