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Just how big is the FE Scam Industry (in $ millions annually <10, 10-100, >100?

Started by Ein~+ein, July 08, 2013, 03:37:35 AM

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markdansie

To estimate depends on definition, like if it was a research project with risk does not mean it is a scam. A scam to me is when the promoter knowingly takes money and knows it does not work, or has ignored all the evidence to the contrary.
I know for instance over $15,000,000 being spend on papp engine technology, but only $2,000,000 was scammed. Like wise with Searle technology i have seen a $5,000,000 blown on one project alone, but was not a scam.
Most of the scam artist can be found on Peswiki. Anyone with claims of a magnetic motor or power enhancer is a scam. Harmless ones like Mylow who took no money through to Perendev who took millions. Some astound me with their resilience like Magna coaster who took deposits and full payment years ago.
Today there are a few dozen floating form the scam in Asia trying to auction rights to solid state generators to Yilditz.
I would put the scam at the low tens of millions, but research is over 100,000,000 currently. What you read on Free Energy News scratches the surface as the real people with the underground labs stay clear of Kook sites. So you tend to only see the actual scams and delusional.
I like crowd funding as people can make up their own minds. Like the two NEST launched just under 2 months ago, but have failed yo even get 2% of what they are asking. People are getting smart.
The real barometer is if someone is happy to get real testing done on their claims. Moves are afoot at a real series attempt to get an international team together to do just that.
No matter how many scams and failures, people still want to believe so fools will always be happy to part with their money
Kind Regards
Mark






Ein~+ein

Quote from: Pirate88179 on July 08, 2013, 10:26:32 PM
Heck, Solyndra alone hit us taxpayers for 535 million, ..

Good point, Pirate!  Should I restrict such scams to OU claims, CoP >1, perpetual motion, water fuel, etc.?

profitis

@einstein..security bubble..so much crap is being granted patents that the so-called patent national-security thought police dont know what the fuck they are looking at anymore,think about it.they,l rubber stamp any shit nowadays,even the real shit.

MileHigh

Mark:

I obviously can't comment on the specifics of the research project associated with Searle, but as a general statement in my opinion the whole operation is one big scam, a long con that has been going on for 60+ years.  They surfaced on YouTube in 2007 and of course we are all still waiting...........

So in my opinion the lab coats and the coats of arms and the the whole thing is just a much bigger and slicker version of Inteligentry.  I haven't followed it for several years now, but I know that Serarl was releasing pdf updates that were almost psycho in their content which was a mixture of their alleged tech and stuff about xes and bodily functions and whatnot.  Ultra strange.

This YouTuber named Flowerbower was writing a book about Searle as of a few years ago.  I don't know the current status.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c__xh9RlWgo

Flowerbower is like another MarkE, he is brilliant and obviously has a very strong technical and educational background.  He wants to expose Searle, but I don't know if that is still pending or what.

I love the folklore narrative:  Skinny hungry post-war young buck in shorts works for a radio company that services the UK military.  Somehow between lining up with his ration cards for bread and butter and gasoline, and working at his full time job as a radio technicain, he manages to find some surplus parts at his job and builds a half-dozen "Searle effect generators" that can produce electrical power without fuel and they are also anti-gravity machines.  He had the vision in a dream.  Amazingly, all of them took off and flew away up into the sky.  One of them even crashed right through the kitchen ceiling and continued on it's way into the heavens.

So now 60 years later apparently poor Searl can't find the same materials that were readily available in 1947 and as a result he need millions of dollars to finish off the new prototypes that are always just around the corner.  In addition to all the impressive looking white lab coats there are even blazers with epaulettes.  This is in anticipation of the Searle space liners and the smartly dressed pilots and the Searle space ports.   Like the friggin' Jetsons.  To the moon in 30 minutes!!!!!  Richard Branson eat your heart out.

Searle is like some kind of 60s acid trip scene for me.  Like he is a character right out of the movie Barbarella.

MileHigh

P.S.:  I almost forgot the MAGIC OF THE SQUARES!!!

cheappower2012

Milehigh,what do you think of the Tariel Kapanadze Device,pick one as there's a lot of different ones,do you think its fake.
If you think its fake ,why,other than the logical argument,if it was real he would simply
patent it,and sell it to a company,instead of putting on shows,logical reasoning, but flawed.If you think its fake what about the 2 Turkey devices,how did he fool the Turks,they had the proper loads,and test equipment.
I asked this same question to Hoopy
He told me to leave him alone, he said he didn't know how TK faked out the Turks,he said he wants to simply believe its fake,LOL,human psychology is silly.