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Overunity Machines Forum



Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell

Started by Paki1, July 14, 2013, 10:26:30 AM

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profitis

@markdansie,,ive done dozens of experiments mate..some with frightening results.if we understand the late great walther nernst,the text-book favorite on electrochemistry we can manipulate voltages.

profitis

@ramset..thanks for the thanks sir..perhaps we will yes.the important thing to know is that all the electrode potentials listed in the text-books are under standard conditions.what happens when the conditions are non-standard?this is what we want to find out.

bugler

Another water car that will never be manufactured. Same as the Philippine guy (don't remember his name now), same as Ismael Aviso who after several years has achieved nothing, etc.


No water car for us any time soon.

truesearch

Once again I was wistfully hoping that something would be "real". . . 


I have an early 70s pickup with a big carborated engine that only makes 10mpg  :(


truesearch

Kator01

thanks to all these positive comment,

@markdansie: you have an impressive cycle of experience and my comment was not do question your profile because I appreciate the way you collect and present new technolgies on your website.
Something I have to report about fuel-booster-systems:
A friend of mine is a teacher at a small technical university in germany. They ( his students)  have done extensive tests ( including rig-test ) with 5 different car-types, injecting HHO from a drycell into the inlet ( without any regulative changes ) with 326 Watt power-consumption. After driving for 1 hour at the speed of 100 km/h power consumed:

326.6 Wh  = 326,6 x 1000 x 3600s = 1,175,760 Ws = Joule
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fuel saved: 1.7l  [/font]= 1.258 Kg  = 15,096 kWh

that is:

15,096 kWh  x 1000 x 3600s = 54,345,600 Ws= Joule

ROI - factor about 46.
energy saved includes the fact that the alternator had to supply the additional 326.6 Wh which in other words means a chemical load of 1 KWh which equals 0.1 liter of gas ( 0.1 ltr of liquid.. in order to avoid any misunderstandings) .

I know..I know: car-engines are only 35 % efficient and somehow the hho can do something here...

@profitis: true, everyone of us always acts in the range of his educational tunnel-view. How can one expect to
experience something extraodinary if he is dwelling in his tunnel with a limited view.
Only those who expect something beyond the classical scientific knowledge will get the chance to discover new things. It is widly known in quantum-mechanics that the universe is just waiting to manifest our ideas and thoughts if persued in a proper manner...but there is what I call "the competition of the different forces"..we have to take this into accout.
Now enough with philosophical thoughts.

I did the first test today. Pic attached. 1 molar solution of Sodium bicarbonat, temp 23.5 deg Ceslius.
Rods 14 cm length, 12 mm diameter, cleaned and rinsed with destilled water than I let them sit for 1 hour in the water.
Voltage applied first 0.5 V, current started with 1.8 mA then decreasing down to 0.6 mA, no Hydrogen on the right-hand rod. H-bubbles starting at 5 mA. For this I had to increase voltage to 0.8 V. Same process, current decreasing. I finished with 1.2 V, current starting with 12 mA ( 15 mW)..bublles formin, again decreasing down to 3 mA, bubbles stopped.
Supply-lines detached and immetiate measurement of voltage across the cell : 0.9 Volt !
This is standard-behaviour of the hydrogen-pressure. hydrogen-gas wants to get back to where it came from, thus pushing electrons back to the positive lead of the powersupply. Now at 0.3 volt ( ! ) above the cell-pressure-voltage bubbles form.

I will continue with NaOH or KaOH and focus on a stable current-condition, monitoring then the supply-voltage and the cell-pressure at this condition.

any suggestions @profitis ?

The best power-input condition one can get is by using a torus-transformer with about 5 to 8 secondary windings and one shottky-diode. It is much more efficient than any powersupply. They have incredible losses up  to 50 % while in current control-mode ( partial-load ). I have verfied this with a switched power-supply ( MRGN-9000 ) These power-supplies are only efficient ( 90-95 %) at full power-output.

To enhance the efficiency: interrupting power-input periodically and download the cell-energy at this moment into a super-cap... then continue charging the cell...somthing which is described in an old german physics-textbook

Regards
Kator01