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Recycling The Energy which was used in Cooling

Started by JohnAXD100, July 15, 2013, 02:07:13 AM

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LibreEnergia

Quote from: DaS Energy on July 22, 2013, 07:10:48 AM
I love it when the don't knows pretend they do.

You'd better be able to back that statement up with a coherent explanation of how a fridge breaks the second law or I shall just assume you are more of an idiot than you already appear to be.

DaS Energy

I very gentle with those coming behind.  At a big dick competition bring a dinner plate!

profitis

lol@ das ...libre still,to this very day has refused to explain to us the spontaneous cooling effect of photon up-conversion devices like the one on sale at foreverlight.com.until he does explain this we must assume the 2nd law is finito.

DaS Energy

 
Thank you profits.
To expand on JohnAXD100 work, We have being playing around with R744 since 2002.
The attached using a 10 litre per second flow produces 10KW.
The colder a heat engine is the more energy it puts out. CO2 will mechanically chill to -40*C
and still be putting out.

LibreEnergia

Quote from: profitis on July 22, 2013, 11:01:16 AM
lol@ das ...libre still,to this very day has refused to explain to us the spontaneous cooling effect of photon up-conversion devices like the one on sale at foreverlight.com.until he does explain this we must assume the 2nd law is finito.

Pringsheim in 1929 showed why anti-Stokes fluorescence (the principle behind devices such as the foreverlight) is not in contradiction to the second law.

Subsequent to this in 1946 Landau proved it by establishing that overall the entropy of such a system always increases.

The second law does not prohibit the cooling occurring, only that overall entropy is increased. Otherwise we'd be foolishly considering that refrigerators are 2nd law violators when clearly they are not.