Company,s that doing research in magnetic gravity in Europe?

[umit]

Dear readers, i am located in Europe, i have build one magnetic device that runs for 10 days, without electricity.

This project that i am working on is succesfull for the full 10 days, i am just a normal guy with a low paid job.
To work further with this project, i need help, because the time i want spent to make the project last longer, taking time and money.

Are there company,s in Europe that work on such projects, and welcome ideas that works and support to make the idea long last working?

I would be very happy for any information regarding my project, i did not test to add a generator or dynamo on it, it probely not work in this stage due to its small size.

How ever it keep on turning the full 10 days, what is magical to see.
Hope for any information, thank you all.

[gyulasun]

Hi umit,

What do you mean on magnetic gravity?  Do you mean you have permanent magnets in your device and you also utilize gravity for helping the rotor with further motive force?

Well, perhaps in the design laboratories of big companies which manufacture electric motors or any other engine able to give rotary torque to a shaft, the design engineers who are bold enough to think in a 'heterodox' way to give some consideration to such designs you are talking about, perhaps there are such engineers out there...  problem is such topic is not mentioned openly in the companies agendas. Private small companies may also tinker with such devices but their whereabouts or their agendas are not known either.  And if you approach any such company, there are chances that you yourself will be placed outside from your own device after a certain time and they will carry on the ball, file a patent application or they just close it into a drawer for a later time...

Regarding your project, it would be the best if you yourself demonstrate it, it is not a problem you did not test it with a generator attached to it, it would be enough you show it running to people you trust. Perhaps Stefan Hartmann the owner and runner of this forum could visit you, he is in Berlin, Germany and he has already offered his personal visits for such cases in the past.

What is the mass of your rotor i.e. how many gramm or kilogramm does it weight approximately?  Because if your rotor has been running for 10 days now, it has to defeat air drag (and friction drag if the shaft has ball bearings) and nevertheless energy is also needed to keep the mass of the rotor in rotation.  How noisy is your setup while running? How big it is now? Do you think it is scaleable up to give higher output power like some hundred Watts or even some kiloWatts?  I ask too many questions.... 

rgds,  Gyula

EDIT Please, do not change or modify your presently running device unless it stops running due to some failure in a component. The best would be to start building another device...    By the way what is the approximate RPM now?

[umit]

Hi thank you for the comment, the total weight is around 3 kilograms, and it is around 50 centimeters in diameter.

And yes, most of the engineers think it is heterodox, how ever i think someone with those thinking are heterodox by them self, I think the engineers who thinks that have a lack of creativity or experience, and protect them self for losing them jobs, or they still not can accept that there are simple non-studiet person that actually archive more as they do, but that is my sight of the view of those sceptics.

The machine makes sounds, but not annoying, because lack of funds i used cheap materials, with proper materials it reduces the sound significantly.

This concept is based on pushing and pulling the magnets what creates his movement.
I did see information about the owner, that he visits people, at this stage i want to complete my project before showing it, some few persons know it,and i registered it in the Netherlands in the tax office, in The Netherlands if you not have a patent, you can register your information as proof that you made it, its a nice future from the country.

Anyway, i believe when he runs longer, or even when  he stays at 10 days, i could make the construction stronger what creates energy.
If not, it will be a nice artwork to sell for cristies or sothebys

But in this stage i believe it has potential, and i am not raising funds at all, just need a workshop the materials, non discloser contract, and a final contract if achivment is made as discussed. Nothing els.

Sorry for my horrible english

[gyulasun]

Hi,

I think if somebody is not able to think in a "heterodox" way in engineering topics than there can be no progress at all...  I agree with you on what you wrote on the engineers situation at a company and that a simple person can achive more i.e. outperform many 'big hat' engineers.

Thanks for the further comments on your device.  How much Euro do you estimate the magnets would cost and any other components?  (not counting the machining hours, just the magnets and other crucial components). Just curious. 

You mention gravity in the title of the thread and you wrote above the concept is based on pushing and pulling the magnets what creates rotor movement: I would like to know how much % motive torque comes from the magnets and how much % from gravity?

greetings,  Gyula

[umit]

Hmm, i am glad you think the same about the engineers, however i disagree with the thinking in a heterodox, people archive more with forwarding positif taughts then get stepped back due to heterodox taughts, but this discussion wil be entless, and i respect every person taughts,its like discussion about taste of food, everybody have is own taste .

Gyula, i am experimenting with magnets around 8 years, and got interested in OU in 2003.
Prices of magnets and materials is cheap, the amount of money is so low that its not need to say how much, lesser then 500 euro for sure, if its not 200.

The amount of time what i put in it is differend Gyula, that is years before i reach so far as i am now.

For now i become so far in this stage, i want further the process in full time,not part time, that is the most expensive costs, i have bills to pay.
I never ever calculate your question in percentage.

I made everytime differend adjustments on the construction till finally it turned and keep on turning.
So with luck and much puzzeling.

But if i look at the construction and i need to give indication, i would say 60 to 70 percent torch and between 30 to 40 percent gravity