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another Self looped Generator Claim

Started by markdansie, August 05, 2013, 08:50:24 AM

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markdansie

I had written of Yiditz years ago,
The final nail if any were left was Yilditz failing to provide a working test motor in Germany last month for some agreed tests.
I need to thank him he got me banned on PESWIKI. Mylow got be banned on many of Sterling's other Forums
Mark

tinman

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 13, 2013, 10:27:39 AM
You are kidding, right?

The "preponderance of evidence" is that Yildiz is a faker, because he has never actually demonstrated in public what he claims. The recent demonstration that Sterling went to see was the final nail in the coffin for many Yildiz-watchers, because in spite of his difficulties it was possible to make some power computations, using the known power dissipation values for the model airplane propeller he used as a load. (Mistake, there: he should have stuck with his anonymous fan blade, so he could continue to claim hundreds or thousands of watts output power.) What did happen there was another comedy of deliberate errors that no honest demonstrator would have made or allowed to happen.

So.... "was it found to be a fraud"? Well, if you, or I had been there instead of Sterling Allen, I think it would have been found to be a fraud, conclusively. I would have challenged each of his claims and examined them for validity using things like prony brakes, real gaussmeters and so forth. I would have insisted on observing the long runs as promised, especially the "parking lot overnight" runs,  and I would have wanted to see the "backup" motor running as well. Having agreed in writing with the claimant beforehand what was to be demonstrated, and the criteria for acceptance or rejection, no weaseling or waffling about would have been permitted. A convenient failure of a component, preventing the demonstration, would invoke the "penalty clause": If I don't get to see what you promised me I will see, then you pay me the (large) penalty amount agreed upon. Destruction of the apparatus by a nuclear terrorist attack would be about the only way out of such a penalty clause. Or the claimant dropping dead in his tracks, of course. Lack of a backup plan on the claimant's part does not constitute a provisional "pass" on my part, it counts as a solid "fail".
Yes i was aware from those like us that know what is what,new it was a scam. But i was wondering if there was an admitance from yildiz ,that it was a fake?.
Sorry for the missunderstanding on that.
But in saying that,i still believe that an all magnet motor will be the first (so called) OU machine,as the force is already contained within the PM itself. Only when a complete understanding on exactly what a magnetic field is,and how to manipulate that field-will we then achieve such a goal.

tinman

Quote from: markdansie on August 13, 2013, 07:24:37 PM
I had written of Yiditz years ago,
The final nail if any were left was Yilditz failing to provide a working test motor in Germany last month for some agreed tests.
I need to thank him he got me banned on PESWIKI. Mylow got be banned on many of Sterling's other Forums
Mark
Must be just us Aussie's Mark lol.

markdansie

All of the stories have been pulled on PESN. Is it suppressed lol?
Has Mr. open source (Sterling) done a deal and trying to protect his investment?

Very mysterious.
Worth a question I believe on the Smart Scarecrow show
Kind Regards

powercat

Quote(Sterling) done a deal and trying to protect his !important investment


LoL, He discovered they are using time travel technology, taking energy from the past to run the device in the future  ;)
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